That Battle for the Prometheus.

[Photon]

Just for the heck of it, lets suspend what happened on screen and say: the Prommy stays out of the battle.
3 Tal Shiar Warbirds vs.
2 Defiants and 1 Akira
Would there be a clear winner or both sides blooded badly.

 

[Computer]

Id have to say the Federation ships would have their ass handed to them.

 

[James Wright]

Doesn't the Akira have phaser arrays while the Warbirds have turrets?
Besides, why would Starfleet send these 3 ships to get the Prommy back if they couldn't handle 3 Warbirds?

JDW

 

[Computer]

JDW said:
Doesn't the Akira have phaser arrays while the Warbirds have turrets?
Besides, why would Starfleet send these 3 ships to get the Prommy back if they couldn't handle 3 Warbirds?

JDW

I was under the impression Starfleet probably wasnt aware of the 3 warbirds and most likely just dispatched 3 ships to find and retrieve the Prometheus.

 

[Photon]

Those 3 ships have some serious firepower.

 

[Peacemaker]

JDW said:
Doesn't the Akira have phaser arrays while the Warbirds have turrets?
Besides, why would Starfleet send these 3 ships to get the Prommy back if they couldn't handle 3 Warbirds?

JDW

The 3 Warbirds weren't expected, and, remember, the Prommy met them while stopped dead in space. The Romulan captain had also changed course to rendevous with the Tal Shiar. This wasn't even known to his underlings until he gave the command. The Romulan military probably planned on getting the Prommy through the neutral zone and well into Romulan space. Had the Prommy not stopped thanks to the two EMH's, the Federation ships wouldn't have caught up to her anyway. I also surmise the Feds may have strategized "on the fly" to disable the Prommy while keeping the Warbirds occupied, retake the bridge, then use her against the Warbirds.

 

[RaulMacca]

Warbirds are dated by the time of the engagement, we saw the prometheus take out one with just a single volley, the defiant's and akira are not going to explode after one volley from the prometheus.

 

[Hermiod]

We've seen Defiant-class ships take one hell of a beating before and hand out them out too.

 

[Photon]

If you'll notice in that scene, the Defiant-class got a shot in too.

 

[Vertex]

Well, when I played it in Bridge Commander, I flew the Prometheus and even after I used MVAM, we lost the Akira and one of the Defiants before the Warbirds were disposed of....

 

[votd]

I remember in one of the novels (or was it a dream??) a Defiant class ship hiding in the huge empty space in the middle of a Warbird - if the shields were knocked out one of the Defiant class ships could sit in the middle and blow the hell out of the Romulans.

 

[nx1701g]

^ That was in one of the Trek Game's opening cinematics (I think Armada 1).

 

[Huntingdon]

^Yes. It also happened in the novels - one of the Shatner ones I think. The Armada scene was pretty excellent.

 

[Timo]

The Shatnerverse had the Enterprise-D hiding inside a Warbird in Federation. That is, if you count Federation as being part of the Shatnerverse. It's part of the Reeves-Stevensverse in any case.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

I thought it was the Defiant-class USS Monitor (renamed Enterprise for that mission) that did the cloak and hide thing in Shatner's "The Return". They de-cloaked in the Warbird's cavity, then did a 360-turn, firing all the way. Boom!

As for the battle in this episode, we didn't know what Starfleet's strategy was. Dated or not, the Warbirds (especially ones run by the Tal Shiar) would likely be some pretty heavily armed ships. Even with an Akira and two Defiants, I really don't think Starfleet could win in a fair fight. I like the idea that they'd try to board Prometheus and take her back, then leave or fight off the Romulans... But as Mark II said, there's only a few people in the Fleet qualified to operate her (which is bollocks, if all they had to do is press a few random buttons and shout some orders to the computer to win the day). Even so, I'd find it more likely that they'd try to destroy Promethues and bug out before getting creamed. They WERE pounding Prometheus the whole way through, after all.

Mark

 

[David cgc]

Mark_Nguyen said:
I thought it was the Defiant-class USS Monitor (renamed Enterprise for that mission) that did the cloak and hide thing in Shatner's "The Return". They de-cloaked in the Warbird's cavity, then did a 360-turn, firing all the way. Boom!

Actually, both happened. In "The Return," the Monitor shredded a Warbird from between the two hulls, and in "Federation," the Enterprise-D rammed a Warbird right where the twin-neck structure was thinnest, severing the head.

Apparently, the Reeves-Stevens thought the twin hull design was a really bad idea, since they used it as an Achilles Heel in two of their books.