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Terry Nation didn't create Davros ...

I can see that someone might take so long before taking action. I am one of life's great procastinators. I can talk myself out of any action. That, coupled with other things that might be happening in someone's life. These things can take time. As to whether the person did create Davros, I don't know, but it's a really interesting story.
 
I hate to bad mouth the sad old git, but no production crew with a lick sense is going to steal an idea/design from a viewer. Don't most tv productions actually go out of their way NOT to look at submitted stories or designs just to avoid this sort of thing?

I might buy it if the sketch were rougher, say just a half man/half Dalek. But c'mon. This is exact right down to the control panel and headgear.
I mean hell, why didn't the kids parents go running to a lawyer back in the 70's?

I'd be willing to at least give him the benefit of the doubt. He sent in something different, then did this drawing right after he say the tv show and simply forgot.
 
It really does seem to be a very bad put up job, bad enough the drawing is exactly how Davros turned out (anyone want to compare how the kid's drawing of the Absorbalov compared to the tv version?) but to say that he came up with the title of Genesis of the Daleks as well...nah he's overegged the pudding, whether he did it intentionally or is merely mistaken is another matter.
 
WOW!!...Comics were brill way back then...Dr Who, The protectors, the persuaders, Cannon, Mission impossible, UFO.

(Two 7 years old in the play ground reading their comics in 1974)

Boy 1 "What you reading"
Boy 2 "The Dandy, desperate Dan just ate another cow pie....its so funny...what you reading"
Boy 1 "TV action...Cannon has just bust a drugs and prostitution ring and found the the bodies of two dead pimps"
Boy 2 "Any chance of a swap".
:lol:
 
This should be easy to prove. The publication was released in 1972. If they can find a copy of it and it appears as he states, no problem! The similarities are so pronounced that there would be no doubt.

However, I'm suspicious. If it was that easy to prove, he would've done it! "Look here at this magazine, it predates the episode!"

Mr Awe
 
Cutter John said:
I mean hell, why didn't the kids parents go running to a lawyer back in the 70's?
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"The teenager, who by this time was working in his local branch of Halfords, contacted solicitors but it went no further because he had lost the copies of the competition entry."
"However, 20 years later, he found them hidden in a set of family encyclopedias. He wrongly believed too much time had passed for another claim, although over the years he has sent several letters to the BBC asserting his rights over the character."
"Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...il-Dalek-mastermind-Davros.html#ixzz1HFMCgbbX"

So he did look into making a claim at the time, but couldn't because he didn't have any proof. Then he foudn the 'proof' later.
It all fits with there being a competition entry which, as per usual policy at the time, wasn't returned, and a second, different, drawing and story which were done after Genesis had gone out and has now turned up (the one fly in this theory being that the 'story' is headed Master Steven Wright, age 13, which would be 1972-ish, not post 1975).
 
Ah I remember when all small boys were required to be refered to as Master....they don't do that anymore do they?
 
diankra said:
"The teenager, who by this time was working in his local branch of Halfords, contacted solicitors but it went no further because he had lost the copies of the competition entry."
"However, 20 years later, he found them hidden in a set of family encyclopedias. He wrongly believed too much time had passed for another claim, although over the years he has sent several letters to the BBC asserting his rights over the character."
"Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...il-Dalek-mastermind-Davros.html#ixzz1HFMCgbbX"

So he did look into making a claim at the time, but couldn't because he didn't have any proof. Then he foudn the 'proof' later.
It all fits with there being a competition entry which, as per usual policy at the time, wasn't returned, and a second, different, drawing and story which were done after Genesis had gone out and has now turned up (the one fly in this theory being that the 'story' is headed Master Steven Wright, age 13, which would be 1972-ish, not post 1975).
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Ack! Busted.
 
Mr Awe said:
This should be easy to prove. The publication was released in 1972. If they can find a copy of it and it appears as he states, no problem! The similarities are so pronounced that there would be no doubt.

However, I'm suspicious. If it was that easy to prove, he would've done it! "Look here at this magazine, it predates the episode!"

Mr Awe
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He didn't say he won the competition and that it was published. He's saying his entry into the competition was used for Genesis of the Daleks.

So finding a copy of the publication doesn't mean anything. Other than it didn't win. Which the guy never claimed he did.
 
Professor Zoom said:
Mr Awe said:
This should be easy to prove. The publication was released in 1972. If they can find a copy of it and it appears as he states, no problem! The similarities are so pronounced that there would be no doubt.

However, I'm suspicious. If it was that easy to prove, he would've done it! "Look here at this magazine, it predates the episode!"

Mr Awe
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He didn't say he won the competition and that it was published. He's saying his entry into the competition was used for Genesis of the Daleks.

So finding a copy of the publication doesn't mean anything. Other than it didn't win. Which the guy never claimed he did.
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Argh! Details! ;)

You're right. Unless he can somehow prove that those drawings existed before the episode was produced, which will be hard, he shouldn't win.

Mr Awe
 
Captaindemotion said:
Has anyone heard of the term 'statute-barred'? In the UK, you have 3 years to issue proceedings (6 years in a breach of contract case) or, if your cause of action arose when you were a child, three years from the date of attaining your majority (ie until you're 21).

This time can be extended in a personal injuries case or if you only learn of your cause of action at a later time.

The time has long since elapsed in this man's case. This case is going nowhere.
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Yeah, I would assume the SoL is blown, but there is the argument to be made that it is an ongoing infringement and not a one-time thing. You could make the argument that the injury occurred the last time Davros appeared and will occur again the next time.
 
Alidar Jarok said:
Captaindemotion said:
Has anyone heard of the term 'statute-barred'? In the UK, you have 3 years to issue proceedings (6 years in a breach of contract case) or, if your cause of action arose when you were a child, three years from the date of attaining your majority (ie until you're 21).

This time can be extended in a personal injuries case or if you only learn of your cause of action at a later time.

The time has long since elapsed in this man's case. This case is going nowhere.
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Yeah, I would assume the SoL is blown, but there is the argument to be made that it is an ongoing infringement and not a one-time thing. You could make the argument that the injury occurred the last time Davros appeared and will occur again the next time.
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Oh, snap! Maybe this will greatly discourage and even delay considerably the next "Obligatory Appearance Of The Daleks (NOW THEY ARE WORSE THAN EVER!! ZOMG!!)" episode. At the very least it will be a long, long, looooong time before we see Davros. At least until this gets settled one way or another.
 
We've seen Davros exactly once - and he was no more impressive than ever - in nuWho, and since this guy has no claim on the Daleks per se there's no reason for them to be delayed.

Bring on the Daleks.
 
Davros to me has only really been impressive in his debut story-Genesis of the Daleks (Although Terry Molloy's performance in Revelation and the audio dramas are pretty good). Most of his performances since have had him mainly be shouty, a pawn of the Daleks used to get them out of their latest jam, and defeated too easily. Davros also reduced the Daleks in concept a bit, making them the creations of a mad scientist instead of survivors of war who lost their humanity over time.

Although it would've been cool if RTD had incorporated the "Genesis of Davros" scene that he wrote-basically an origin for Davros similar to the Master's origin in Sound of Drums.It would've have Davros in his human form (Presumabely also played by Bleach) injured and transformed into the familiar guy in the chair.

Regarding the controversy, apparentally the designers for Davros based him partially on some alien from a British comic strip (Possibly the old Daleks comics themselves, not sure about that though).
 
Whofan said:
apparentally the designers for Davros based him partially on some alien from a British comic strip
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Some alien? Only the frikking Mekon!

Peter Day's original design is certainly more Mekon-like that what we finally ended up with. (It's the big head basically.)
 
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