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Terra Nova 1x01&02 - Genesis Parts 1&2 (Grade/Discuss) SPOILERS

Grade Genesis Parts 1 and 2

  • Excellent! - Dino-riffic!

    Votes: 11 8.5%
  • Above Average - Hey, this is pretty good!

    Votes: 54 41.9%
  • Average - Well it's an ok start, will see what happens.

    Votes: 42 32.6%
  • Below Average - Braga..shakes head and moves on..

    Votes: 16 12.4%
  • Poor - Dino-Crap

    Votes: 6 4.7%

  • Total voters
    129
Now see, I like the technical forensic stuff just as much as I like the characters. I find it all refreshingly Trekkish. :mallory:
 
While Terra Nova may turn out to be great. I think the dystopian future shown at the start of the episode would have made a great series by itself.
 
I really liked the show, but for some reason the Jim Shannon character strongly reminds me of Jack Carter from Eureka. That was a bit jarring
 
While Terra Nova may turn out to be great. I think the dystopian future shown at the start of the episode would have made a great series by itself.

Indeed. For years I've had a fictional world imagined that's an "alternate universe" to my main characters (living in our universe.) The alternate universe involves a highly polluted Earth where wearing re-breather masks is pretty much required when you're outside.

The overpopulated, over-polluted, Earth touting "over population means extinction!" would've been more interesting. It would've been more interesting if the punishment for having a third child meant that that child gets to die not, "well watta you gonna do?" and then giving the parents a fine, they get to keep the kid, and can live life as normal.
 
There's quite a bit of Spielberg DNA in the show, but I found it much more entertaining than expected. I liked the nod to Bladerunner. Will watch again.
 
That was pretty boring. The drama seemed forced and not as epic as I would expect from a pilot episode ("Oh no, the kids acted stupid and put themselves in danger!").
 
The overpopulated, over-polluted, Earth touting "over population means extinction!" would've been more interesting. It would've been more interesting if the punishment for having a third child meant that that child gets to die not, "well watta you gonna do?" and then giving the parents a fine, they get to keep the kid, and can live life as normal.

I think that the third child policy was fairly logical. Having the kid is not approved and a bad idea but they don't necessarily want to punish the child--just the stupid parents. Didn't the son say something about it only being a (possibly large) fine if his father hadn't been dumb enough to punch the cops.

I also got the impression that we should read between the lines and assume that the baby was an oops baby and that they simply didn't want to abort but the show wasn't willing to come out and leave itself open to being accused of anti-abortion tendencies. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
 
I think that the third child policy was fairly logical. Having the kid is not approved and a bad idea but they don't necessarily want to punish the child--just the stupid parents. Didn't the son say something about it only being a (possibly large) fine if his father hadn't been dumb enough to punch the cops.
But that's what makes the entire storyline stupid, if it was an oops baby, why not just go to the population office or whatever, pay the fine and let your child have a normal life with friends, school etc., instead of hiding it from everyone and stuffing it into a vent while cops tear apart your apartment?
It's pretty much impossible to hide a child forever, the only reason to even try would be if the punishment is severe, not a fine.
 
And like I said, I don't see the point in putting them in some alternate timeline's past.
It's useful if they want to go for a plot twist where the planet's past is different from what we know as Earth's past (intelligent dino civilization for instance). That would be a surprise since I'd imagine most people are making the same assumption you are about "how time travel works," but the writers haven't ruled out the past-is-different-too possibility.
A faction of intelligent dinosaurs doesn't necessarily need a separate timeline. I can't think of much that would require a different past. Maybe another catastrophic natural disaster, but that's it.

Hopefully those episodes will be something of a "contained arc" incase the show doesn't get the "Back 9" purchased and/or picked up for a second season.
If that's the case they should tell it to the viewers because I'm sure many people don't feel like watching such shows, or at least are really apprehensive about it, knowing that there's a great possibility that it will end with everything unresolved. Like watching a movie but missing the end.
If 13 episodes is indeed all they planned for season 1, then I can see them doing a somewhat contained story that leaves things open for more.
 
That's what didn't make sense. In an overpopulated society the punishment for having too many children is... a fine?

?!?!

Sure if the father did it he may have been discredited a bit and maybe lost his job for "breaking the law." You'd also think if this program was serious they'd sterilize the parents after the second child was born) but it certainly seems there's no real harsh punishment for doing this - the dad was only jailed for attacking the authorities.

Hell, the child didn't even seem to harm the mother's life nor her entry into the Terra Nova program. So the "two children" thing seems a bit ridiculous if it's not seriously enforced.

China's "one child only rule" comes with a heavy fine, and the inability to register the child (thus making it impossible for the child to get an education or otherwise function in society.)

And the mother was supposed to just leave the child behind to go to Terra Nova?! How was that supposed to work out or helping? As someone said above letting them take the child would just be one less mouth for Earth to feed.
 
Son was stupid but that's how teenage boys are.
The premier was fascinating.
Wish the family had shown more...WONDER at their circumstances instead of working about getting their home HGTV'd.
 
While Terra Nova may turn out to be great. I think the dystopian future shown at the start of the episode would have made a great series by itself.

Indeed. For years I've had a fictional world imagined that's an "alternate universe" to my main characters (living in our universe.) The alternate universe involves a highly polluted Earth where wearing re-breather masks is pretty much required when you're outside.
Even if we turn out to hate everything about Terra Nova we should support it heavily so we get a Terra Nova spinoff about its dystopian future if it becomes popular enough. :lol:

The overpopulated, over-polluted, Earth touting "over population means extinction!" would've been more interesting. It would've been more interesting if the punishment for having a third child meant that that child gets to die not, "well watta you gonna do?" and then giving the parents a fine, they get to keep the kid, and can live life as normal.
The future world was rushed a bit. If you can just pay a fine to keep a child what is the big fuss about. If you really want another child just pay the damn fine!!

Obviously it means rich people can have as many kids as they want or their pockets allow them.

Maybe that teen brat who hate his father for being a moron after punching a cop was right after all. :lol:
 
Son was stupid
The spoiled teen brat is right. His father is a moron who punch a cop instead of paying a damn fine which they clearly have the money for. :p

(I'm joking obviously, kind of. It's just a bit badly written)
 
One other thing that kinda bugs me-- what's up with the bullets only seeming to sting the dinosaurs? I get that they're huge and have thick skin, but they're not bulletproof.

They shouldn't be any harder to bring down than one of today's rhinos or elephants. Especially with the more powerful weapons they probably have.
 
One other thing that kinda bugs me-- what's up with the bullets only seeming to sting the dinosaurs? I get that they're huge and have thick skin, but they're not bulletproof.

They shouldn't be any harder to bring down than one of today's rhinos or elephants. Especially with the more powerful weapons they probably have.

I'm under the impression they are using some kind of stun bullets. (is there such a thing?)
 
One other thing that kinda bugs me-- what's up with the bullets only seeming to sting the dinosaurs? I get that they're huge and have thick skin, but they're not bulletproof.

They shouldn't be any harder to bring down than one of today's rhinos or elephants. Especially with the more powerful weapons they probably have.

I'm under the impression they are using some kind of stun bullets. (is there such a thing?)

I guess like, rubber bullets?

But then, the question is: why would you only want to STUN a dinosaur? Wouldn't it be better to kill the thing?
 
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