Terminator Salvation clips

[StarTrek1701]

Art of Terminator 4

IO9 just put up a new video of production designer Martin Laing talking about the new movie. There are new footage scenes from the movie as well.

WARNING: contains bit/big spoilers about some new designs of Terminators, so click at your own risk.

 

[crouteru]

Production wise it's looking very good. I just hope the story holds up.

 

[Lowdarzz]

The production values of the film look excellent, I particularly like the design for the T-600. Unfortunately production values alone don't make a good film. I'm in the minority around here that thought the series should have ended with Terminator 2. The third film was mediocre at best.

McG inspires no confidence in me whatsoever. If those two Charlies Angels films show his talent as a director then this film is screwed.

 

[V]

the thing I've always wanted them to do is a real "Future War" movie

because all of the other movies basically....fight to get back to zero

they're saving John Connor.....so Skynet can nuke us all anyway and he just leads whose left

the only bright part is that Kyle Reese mentions in passing that they've effectively won the war 30 years later; something along the lines of that Skynet is winning battles but losing the overall war, didn't anticipate a Hail Mary-style attack on its primary command center at Cheyenne Mountain

but overall, we see how humanity is just "setting up" John Connor but we don't really see "taking the fight to the Machines and making them PAY for what they've done" etc.

They mentioned that we'll see "about 10 new kinds of Terminator"

what we've seen so far are basically:

*T-600 - an earlier version of the T-800 series which is more like a hulking 7 foot brute, armed with a gatling gun, barely meant to resemble a human other than basic outline

*Moto-Terminators - robot-motorcycles with guns strapped to them, apparently favoring speed over armor

*Hunter-Killer tanks - as seen since Terminator 1
*Hunter-Killer VTOL gunships - as seen since Terminator 1

*Harvester - I had trouble understanding what this would be as we at first only saw its hand; given that it is described as "a robot used to round up humans, alive, to work as slaves or in experiments" I kind of visualized something like the Martian Handling-machines from War of the Worlds; star-fish shaped things using long tentacles to grab people. Turns out its actually just a GIANT hulking humanoid form, taller than a Hunter-Killer tank.

*"Aquatic-Terminators" - we've seen clips of this but not clearly; its turned loose in the ruined sewer system (where lots of humans are hiding)


hmmm

A bit question I've always had, is how the heck did Skynet develop its machine-army? Granted, the humans were devasted by a nuclear war....but Skynet was dependent on the US military's industrial infrastructure; wouldn't it have been juts as badly affected? Or is it something like that just "robots aren't hurt by fallout as much"?

Because the "working theory" I developed is that it takes like 10 years for fallout to lower to a halfway-safe background level, when everyone can leave their bunkers for at least short periods.

In the meantime, Skynet is free to build its Machine-empire....but how? where do the first automated factories come from?

 

[Samurai8472]

clearer version
http://www.dumbdrum.com/terminator-salvation-featurette-the-art-of-martin-laing/

 

[V]

thank you

 

[StarTrek1701]

In the meantime, Skynet is free to build its Machine-empire....but how? where do the first automated factories come from?

Some were pre-built, as seen in Terminator 3. Skynet could have used those robots to make new ones. But from the first movie I got the idea that humans created all the robots, then gave Skynet access to the central command system and got their asses owned.

 

[Frontier]

Looks awesome.

 

[V]

I mean my point is that....granted, eventually there is a "technology singularity", that is...it's like a snowball effect:

a "technology singularity" is when humans build robots that are even slightly smarter than humans themselves

now, lets say it took "50 years" for humans to do that

given that these "smarter robots" are by definition, smarter than us, it stands to reason that these 1st generation "smart robots" could then invent a 2nd generation of robots even smarter than themselves, which is either A-beyond anything humans could EVER do, or more probably B-done MUCH *FASTER* than humans could make such smart robots

example: "it takes 50 years for humans to make robots who are 10% smarter than humans themselves"

logically, it might only then take 40 years for such robots to make a second generation of robots who are 20% smarter than humans

and THOSE 2nd generation robots can in the space of 10 years, make a robot 100% smarter than a human

etc. etc. so it's the "technological singularity" snowball effect

************so I understand that if the bombs (original timeline) dropped in 1997, that 20 years later, Skynet is fielding Terminator-robots wielding plasma guns and with cyborg human skin and tissue grafts; hunter-killers, even the advanced T-1000 polymimetic alloy (of course, that was a VERY advanced prototype and not common)

so if Skynet had a basic infrastructure of "robot workers" of even poor, C-3PO levels of advancement, T-1 auto-tanks (seen in Terminator 3) and Predator UAV's.......how the heck did it advance more?

I guess my question is "were there automated factories, or what?"

I mean physically, how does Skynet build new robots? Build new factories out of the rubble?

Well, this film takes place 10 years after the bombs.

So he officially said there are 10 "new" Terminators, including:
*The Harvester
*Moto-Terminators (apparently they work in tandem with the Harvesters)
*The T-600 basic foot-soldier
*Aqua-Terminators (eel-like machines deployed in sewers)

so that leaves 6 more to go

you see originall I thought the idea of "aquatic terminators" was just an excuse to make another design, but if you think about it, it is logical: a lot of humans must be hiding in the old sewer systems and "Aqua-Terminators" would be useful there

 

[nx1701g]

^ In the original timeline (The Terminator) the humans were used in factories to help build Terminators, but automation came into play post T2. In T3 there was a scene in the script (and the novelization) where John and Kate pass through an automated factory while they're trying to escape the T-X.

 

[Good Will Riker]

Looks awesome.

I wonder how Terminator Salvation will tie both T3 and "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" together in its mythos without contradicting each other?

 

[nx1701g]

^ The Sarah Connor Chronicles is an alternate continuity. The film Terminator 4: Salvation is following the movie canon (T1 & T2 are being followed, aspects from T3 are going to be observed but not strictly followed).

Spoiler: John Connor: Leader of the Resistance?

Early spoilers and leaked information indicates that John Connor may not be leader of the Resistance but rather a subordinate of a survivor from the US Military.

 

[Chess Piece Face]

clearer version
http://www.dumbdrum.com/terminator-salvation-featurette-the-art-of-martin-laing/

This looks really great!

 

[Mr. Adventure]

From The Terminator 25th Anniversary Special Edition:
"The 600-series were easy to spot, they had rubber skin ... and were EIGHT FEET TALL."

 

[Tom]

To bad the terminator series could not segway to the Matrix series, in the last film it could end like:

In a desperate effort to stop the revived Skynet the humans tryed to block out the sunlight hoping to cut off Skynets solar power generation, they were successfull and solar power was no longer an option for Skynet...however Skynet found a new way to get power, use humans as batterys!! In order to grow there needed human farms they needed to have the human believe everything was normal so they built an advanced computer simulation called the Matrix where human could virtually live...