Taylor Swift - Why The Hate? Pt II

[Taylirious]

I consider her music to be fluff, and nothing more. I've had nothing against her in the past, though Robert Maxwell raises some very valid issues with her music.

Her music isn't "fluff" to me. I appreciate what she does as I am sure others appreciate what most current artists do.

The song mentioned in the article was written when she was younger. I get what they are saying but if people read stuff I wrote at that age, they would have problems with it too.

"You Belong with Me" is a country pop song performed by American recording artist Taylor Swift. The song was co-written by Swift and Liz Rose and produced by Nathan Chapman with Swift's aid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Belong_with_Me

Born 1991(?) Written/Recorded 2008 It is 2014.

I am giving her the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Amaris]

I consider her music to be fluff, and nothing more. I've had nothing against her in the past, though Robert Maxwell raises some very valid issues with her music.

Her music isn't "fluff" to me. I appreciate what she does as I am sure others appreciate what most current artists do.

The song mentioned in the article was written when she was younger. I get what they are saying but if people read stuff I wrote at that age, they would have problems with it too.

"You Belong with Me" is a country pop song performed by American recording artist Taylor Swift. The song was co-written by Swift and Liz Rose and produced by Nathan Chapman with Swift's aid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Belong_with_Me

Born 1991(?) Written/Recorded 2008 It is 2014.

I am giving her the benefit of the doubt.

That's fine. I'm not saying you can't enjoy her music, or find anything in it, I just consider her music to be fluff. That's all.

 

[Taylirious]

I think my problem is people want to criticize her for telling her story, her way but don't do the same with other popular artists.

 

[Amaris]

I think my problem is people want to criticize her for telling her story, her way but don't do the same with other popular artists.

Well, the only reason I really know about her is because she constantly pops up in the news, or I see her on talk shows like Ellen (I adore Ellen), otherwise I'd probably know little or nothing about her, as I'm not her target audience. If you connect with her, that's wonderful, and I'd never judge someone based solely on who they like.

 

[sidious618]

My favorite is that she was on a talk show, I believe Letterman, and was asked about what dating advice she'd give to women. She said that after texting/phoning with a guy at the beginning they should cut off all contact without warning and then wait for the guy to make a grand gesture like showing up at your house, begging to see you. Both sociopathic and dangerous advice!

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

She bugs me because she takes herself way too seriously for her age. Tina Fey and Amy Poehler made one harmless crack about her dating life and she hit the roof.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I think she just has a lot of growing up to do.

 

[tomalak301]

Why are we having another thread about why Taylor Swift is hated? I still like her, find her songs catchy, and even liked her Red Album, even though my favorite of hers is Speak Now.

 

[Amaris]

I think she just has a lot of growing up to do.

That's true, she really does.

 

[{ Emilia }]

This sums up what I don't like about Taylor Swift.

That's a really good article that sums it up well.

Oh... and I don't like her music. Can't say I hate her, though.
What's up with celebrity hate anyway? I recently heard many people hate Anne Hathaway.

Celebs can't all be as hilarious as Jennifer Lawrence.

 

[JWPlatt]

I don't appreciate Taylor Swift's narcissistic use of her former boyfriends' personal lives as if she owns rights to the men she dates, but she doesn't offend me. Kanye West's behavior toward her when he grabbed the mic away at an awards show was more offensive.

Once Taylor Swift is happily married, if that's possible, we'll never hear from her again. Single and unhappy produces songs. Like Alanis Morissette, comfortable and content - not so much. I'm predicting the same for Adele.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Once Taylor Swift is happily married, if that's possible, we'll never hear from her again. Single and unhappy produces songs. Like Alanis Morissette. I'm predicting the same for Adele.

Is the same true for male singers? Married singers can't make good music?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Didn't John Mayer actually write a rebuttal to "Dear John"? That'd be interesting to hear.

"Paper Doll"

Good for him!

 

[JWPlatt]

Once Taylor Swift is happily married, if that's possible, we'll never hear from her again. Single and unhappy produces songs. Like Alanis Morissette. I'm predicting the same for Adele.

Is the same true for male singers? Married singers can't make good music?

I wouldn't limit it to gender. Nor would I say married artists can't make good music. Your words. The topic is Taylor Swift and includes her serially narcissistic use of boyfriends. I chose other similar examples. If you can find examples of reversed roles, I'd enjoy that just as much. But be aware that the term "married rock and roller" (or just married celebrity) is more often than not an oxymoron and self-selecting such that they won't be married long and will begin producing more art soon.

 

[{ Emilia }]

serially narcissistic use of boyfriends

Do you actually know enough about her or her relationships to really pass judgement here? What's a narcissistic use of boyfriends or girlfriends? I'm really just wondering, I don't know Taylor Swift very well.

 

[JWPlatt]

serially narcissistic use of boyfriends

Do you actually know enough about her or her relationships to really pass judgement here? What's a narcissistic use of boyfriends or girlfriends? I'm really just wondering, I don't know Taylor Swift very well.

I know her songs and she is infamous for using boyfriends as fodder as discussed in other comments here and by more than just a few coincidental articles on the topic. I call it "serially narcissistic use of boyfriends" because she has clearly used more than one boyfriend in this manner and assumes every right for herself to expose the private lives of her former boyfriends as if they have no personal say in exposing their personal lives and she has 100% ownership of their experience together. I wouldn't make this complaint if her former boyfriends were offered creative input and agreed to sign a release in exchange for 50% of the proceeds for the song about them. But they didn't and that's why I believe she narcissistically assumed ownership of their private lives. It was really all about her.

I'd like to point out that Carly Simon's "You're So Vain" is different in that she has never public stated who the target was, did not make it blatant in the song, has gone to great lengths to keep it a mystery, and stories of whether the character in that song is a composite or not are varied enough that doubt remains. She's been more classy about it. It's ironic that Taylor Swift revealed that Simon had revealed the identity of the song's subject to her in confidence after a performance of the song with Simon.

 

[Mooch]

I'd like to point out that Carly Simon's "You're So Vain" is different in that she has never public stated who the target was, did not make it blatant in the song, has gone to great lengths to keep it a mystery, and stories of whether the character in that song is a composite or not are varied enough that doubt remains.

I'd say that's true of almost all of Taylor Swift's songs as well. Of course she is surveilled much more intensely that Carly Simon probably was, and that makes it hard to keep secrets. Everyone knows who her boyfriends are whether she wants them to or not.

 

[Forbin]

Actually, it never occurred to me that Carly was writing about a real relationship. I always thought the plot of the song was just made up.