Tasha
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Suck????
I don't think so.
A still image cannot convey the magnitude of poor acting she brought to that episode. I felt bad that Nimoy had to be on the same set with her.
In fairness, that example is almost wholly the fault of the writers. And almost everyone involved agrees the episode itself is horrible.
Yes, Denise isn't a good actress, but it's not like Shatner is terribly great either.
I'm not sure whether Worf was stereotypically Klingon or if Klingons became Worf-clones. I don't really remember Worf-style honor as a concern for any pre-Worf Klingons. But it's been a while since I watched a lot of early TNG, so maybe I'm misremembering and Worf acted more like a traditional Klingon early on.
I agree. I think was was the archetypal rather than stereotypical Klingon. By this I think he became what all the others were modelled on. Before TNG there wasn't really a Klingon like him.
A still image cannot convey the magnitude of poor acting she brought to that episode. I felt bad that Nimoy had to be on the same set with her.
ROTFLMAO.
To tell you the truth, Tasha was what got me interested in the series. I really liked her when i started regularly watching.
Might be a bit of an understatement there, Finn. I thought Suzie was fantastic in that role.
I didn't care for her much in S1, but enjoyed her in "Yesterday's Enterprise". (Just watched it again yesterday). If she didn't leave, I think we would have had a very different TNG season 3 and beyond. Worf was perfect as Security Lead. He was really just a fifth wheel until she left (and was beefed up more). Gordi didn't really shine until he moved to Engineering. Many of the characters didn't really shine until season 3.
And we would have never gotten the excellent episode of "Yesterdays Enterprise" if she DIDN'T leave! It just wouldn't have worked.
And we would have never gotten the excellent episode of "Yesterdays Enterprise" if she DIDN'T leave! It just wouldn't have worked.
Tasha was great, I think she left the series, they didn't just write her out. Worf though as head of security after, all the Work centric eps we got, with his son, and then over to DS9 - perfect. Worf was great and needed that avenue to have them write so well for him. Tasha I think could have stayed and there still could have been a strong Worf presence.
I actually think there could have been a stronger Worf presence if Tasha had stuck around. When Worf became chief of security/tactical officer, he became permanently a klingon stereotype. Now, he was written as one in Season 1, but everyone was written poorly there. However when Tasha died, there was little hope for him to get out. He was a well written Klingon stereotype, but one none-the-less.
Now if Tasha had stuck around, Worf probably would have stuck around as the Deck Officer. Working tactical, conn, security, sciences, operations, and other things as needed. This would have put on a path to the Captain's chair and given him a job that was completely non-Klingon Warrior. Therefore, they could have played up his inner turmoil even greater.
Now if Tasha had stuck around, Worf probably would have stuck around as the Deck Officer. Working tactical, conn, security, sciences, operations, and other things as needed. This would have put on a path to the Captain's chair and given him a job that was completely non-Klingon Warrior. Therefore, they could have played up his inner turmoil even greater.
Her acting is right on par with most of the cast, so I don't get the hate there. But I also don't get how Sela is a popular character. TNG had been doing Romulans so well, and then they throw in another stupid, cliche, evil twin. I'd call it comic book-ish but that would be insulting to comic book writers.
Worf was so much better as a Security chief than Tasha Yar! Her death on Romulus was a better end than by the tar-monster.
I agree with the others who also disliked the Pulaski character. Dr. Crusher was the perfect CMO for the Enterprise, especially with her close friend as captain.
I agree with the others who also disliked the Pulaski character. Dr. Crusher was the perfect CMO for the Enterprise, especially with her close friend as captain.
Crusher was boring and unlikable. She was also a horrible mother. Not to mention Sub Rosa is an absolute disgrace to the franchise. When I think about the worst moment of Star Trek I always say it's either Threshold, Abrams Trek, or Sub Rosa.
Pulaski I enjoyed. It's sad we never got a follow up to the character. I am always confused that people can like Bev over Pulaski.
Yar's departure from the show really left the show without a strong female character. Troi and Crusher were too motherly, especially for a show that was promoting gender equality.
Ro really didn't last long enough to really be a viable replacement. Shelby would've worked if Stewart didn't come back in S4.
Pulaski I enjoyed. It's sad we never got a follow up to the character. I am always confused that people can like Bev over Pulaski.
Yar's departure from the show really left the show without a strong female character. Troi and Crusher were too motherly, especially for a show that was promoting gender equality.
Ro really didn't last long enough to really be a viable replacement. Shelby would've worked if Stewart didn't come back in S4.
Appreciated your post, Utopianvista! I liked Pulaski as well, a rare and refreshing female Trek character.
I've never thought about it this way. I think that you have a good point.
The only thing I would say is that I'm not sure that Worf would have got much interest had Tasha stayed, just because I don't think that they were looking to develop characters from "exisiting" races.
I always liked Tasha's character, one, simply for the fact that it was different for the times -a female chief security officer.
She seemed to fit in her role and came off as believable, IMO .
I remember reading in a trek article where the top priorities were to develop the captain and the first officer ahead everyone else.
Maybe that, and the fact it was around 1987
that could explain some of the writing and characterizations.
The part of the Romulan senator stationed on DS9 during the war would have been perfect for her "Sela" character.
She seemed to fit in her role and came off as believable, IMO .
I remember reading in a trek article where the top priorities were to develop the captain and the first officer ahead everyone else.
Maybe that, and the fact it was around 1987
that could explain some of the writing and characterizations. The part of the Romulan senator stationed on DS9 during the war would have been perfect for her "Sela" character.
Crosby has commented on how there was an implied attraction between Yar and Worf in Skin of Evil. She has said that she wished the writers had brought this up sooner as it would have encouraged her to remain on the show.
Crosby as an actress left something to be desired, but in a way her alienated way of speaking works for her psychology as essentially a refugee from a broken society.
I agree that should she have remained, Worf's character would've been allowed an opportunity to develop emotionally and professionally in ways that his position as Security chief would not have afforded him. Perhaps with Yar still aboard it wouldn't have been necessary to write Alexander into the show to give Worf some depth. I can never decide if I like that kid or not.
Though without him we wouldn't have had "A Fistful of Datas." That episode is kind of awesome...in my opinion...
It's hard to theorize what Yar's continued presence on the Enterprise would've meant for the show. Perhaps things went for the best given the complex episodes her regret for leaving the show brought about.
Crosby as an actress left something to be desired, but in a way her alienated way of speaking works for her psychology as essentially a refugee from a broken society.
I agree that should she have remained, Worf's character would've been allowed an opportunity to develop emotionally and professionally in ways that his position as Security chief would not have afforded him. Perhaps with Yar still aboard it wouldn't have been necessary to write Alexander into the show to give Worf some depth. I can never decide if I like that kid or not.
Though without him we wouldn't have had "A Fistful of Datas." That episode is kind of awesome...in my opinion...
It's hard to theorize what Yar's continued presence on the Enterprise would've meant for the show. Perhaps things went for the best given the complex episodes her regret for leaving the show brought about.
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