TAS Elements in the Books & Comics
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Unfortunately (for everyone except DC and their readers) he now works exclusively for DC.
"United we cameo, divided we fall."
M'Ress and Arex landing party by Ian McLean, on Flickr
I did swap a few posts with Ian when he started doing work for Pocket's eBooks. It seemed possible he was going to be able to finish the storyline (in a novel?), and then I held out hopes for text pages at the end of IDW's reprint omnibus of "Early Voyages", but it didn't happen. The story just ended in a cliffhanger in the reprint trade.
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Have any of the books or comics addressed the end of The Infinite Vulcan? I just watched it on Netflix this morning and was kind of shocked it actually ended with them leaving the giant Spock on the planet. So technically there could still be a giant Spock hanging around of Phylos going all the way into the TNG era.
If you mean the Bantam anthologies of that title, no. If you mean the fan-film series, I have no idea.
I meant Bantam, yeah. I haven't read them in years, but I thought one of them was a follow-up to that episode that involved Spock getting split into human and Vulcan halves, and somehow connected into the giant Spock?
Spock gets split into human and Vulcan halves, a la Kirk's being split into good and evil halves in "The Enemy Within," in a story called "Ni Var" in New Voyages 1. There's no connection with "The Infinite Vulcan," however.
FWIW, I really liked that story.
FWIW, I really liked that story.
No, as TheUsualSuspect just said (while I was composing this), that was a loose sequel to "The Enemy Within," with an alien scientist investigating the "Alfacite energy phenomenon" to replicate the transporter-splitting effect for use on interspecies hybrids.
Perhaps you're mistaking the name of the scientist's planet, Fornax II, for Phylos?
Oh, aha.
Nah, I think I must've just jumbled things up in my head somehow; I have no idea how I got that connection made. Thanks, both of you!
In the volume of "Star Trek Logs" that adapts the "Bem" episode, there are other Pandronians mentioned in the original ADF sections, IIRC, as they deal with Bem's misdemeanors. Premier Kau afdel Kaun, Lud eb Riss, ab Af, Dav pn Hon and da Mida are named
Pandronians also briefly mentioned in the novelization of "The Slaver Weapon" in "Star Trek Log Ten", and in "Titan: The Red King".
Also: [Memory Beta]: "Lura bn Zel was a Pandronian artist from the planet Pandro. In the 23rd century, Zel became famous for his oil paintings. In 2293, the Bureau of Interplanetary Affairs displayed some of Zel's work in the reception area of their headquarters on Rigel IV. [Crucible novel: Spock: The Fire and the Rose]"
Terra 10 is mentioned in the "Starfleet Spaceflight Chronology" and SCE's "Out of the Cocoon". The Terratin colony is explained to be now located on Verdanis in the "Crucible" novel, "Spock: The Fire and the Rose".
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And IIRC, the only reason Kirk was able to convince the Phylosians to stop their massive invasion was by convincing them that intergalactic wars were a thing of the past...given that we know that's not the case, I always wondered what would happen in the wake of the Dominion wars, etc...
There's never been an intergalactic war (i.e. between two different galaxies) in Trek; the closest we've gotten was the planned Kelvan invasion from the Andromeda Galaxy. Even the Dominion War was an intragalactic war, between two quadrants of the Milky Way. The Borg/Species 8472 war was an intercosmic war, between two different universes, but fluidic space had no galaxies. The kind of wars Kirk was talking about, like the Earth-Romulan War, were merely interstellar. Even "intragalactic" would be an overstatement, since the Federation and all its neighbors are contained within a small region of a single arm of the galaxy. Calling those intergalactic wars is like crossing the street and calling it intercontinental travel.
What Kirk said to the Phylosians was essentially true at the time -- there had been no war with the Klingons, Romulans, or others for generations, aside from the brief UFP/Klingon war the Organians stopped. And really, what "massive invasion?" The Phylosians had a bunch of ships that their ancestors had built for a massive invasion, sure, but there were only about five of them left alive, plus the Keniclius and Spock clones. And the clones dedicated themselves to preventing the extinction of the remaining Phylosians -- which itself would probably be the work of generations, during which time the ancestors' massive warships would fall even further into decay. I don't think there's any galactic threat there.
Thank goodness you spent a paragraph correcting that one-word slip-up, I was really confused there for a while.
Right now with The Prometheus Design it seems that Marshak & Culbreath were following up on the 75-year-old retirement line from The Counter-Clock Incident, although they don't specifically mention 75 years. They have a Vulcan named Savaj who is described having been a Starfleet Admiral, and still has the rank of Admiral (and it is referred to as a Life Time Rank). They seem to suggest that the 75 year old mark was set as being a "fair" age for all races to retire from the service, with longer-lived races being able to retain their attained rank. Kind of like "General Trelane, Retired" or "Trelane, Esquire". And Savaj is referred to in the book as both an Admiral and Vulcan Lord.
I mean, yes, this. Look, I'd love to have a published sci-fi/tie-in author critique my writing under other circumstances, but this is ridiculous.
I mistyped. I meant "intragalactic", not "intergalactic". You are correct, "interstellar" would have been a better word choice.
However, I think that's pretty obvious in context, and even if it's not, if you'd put the same amount of thought into what I might have meant in my two sentences of idle speculation as you did towards painstakingly defining intergalactic, interstellar, and intercosmic warfare in the context of a franchise in which I am perfectly well versed, thank you very much, you might have thought:
"Hey, I think he may have accidentally typed a few letters, or maybe he had autocorrect on. Oh well."
OR
"Hey, this guy used the wrong word, but a more accurate word is very similar. Maybe I'll ask him if he meant the other word in a one sentence question, because that would be simpler and less obnoxious than defining both words to his virtual face. And if he did mean the first word, then I can jump in with my long-winded explanation! Everyone wins!"
OR EVEN
"Hey, this guy doesn't get the notion of interstellar distances at all, but I'll let that slide because I can see that his main point is that this one species from the Star Trek animated series could be a threat in the future, a point to which I disagree, so maybe I'll go right to harping on that instead."
And don't even use the argument that "Scientific terms/the English language is in general so misused that I'm just fighting the good fight against the forces of ignorance." This is a Star Trek literature message board. Most people coming here probably know the difference between galaxies and stars and what scale Trek conflicts generally happen on, otherwise they wouldn't be able to follow the plots of most of the episodes and books.
So either you completely missed that I had made a genuine error, or you decided that it didn't matter, because my momentary lapse in writing gave you an opportunity to lecture to a virtual room full of people about things they already know. Which is it?
TC
Calm it down a bit please.
The Intra prefix isn't anything like as well know as the inter prefix. Maybe I'm just revealing my sub-standard education, but I know I had to figure it out for myself as an adult.
Also, this is the internet. We all need to remember that nuance is sometimes lacking in the written word.
The Intra prefix isn't anything like as well know as the inter prefix. Maybe I'm just revealing my sub-standard education, but I know I had to figure it out for myself as an adult.
Also, this is the internet. We all need to remember that nuance is sometimes lacking in the written word.
The prefix isn't even the issue. The issue is that either Christopher is incapable of understanding that my TYPO was irrelevant to the discussion at hand, or that he is so full of himself that he takes time out of his busy schedule to bully random users by posting disproportionately long lectures on word usage at the drop of a hat. Any hat. Considering Christopher is a published author of some note, and one that even I had some regard for up till now, I find either possibility difficult to believe, but one of them must be true.
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