Target Audience first time watches TAS…

[Warped9]

I've never heard of The Target Audience YouTube channel before, so I thought this thread was going to be about your kids watching TAS for the first time. I actually thought, "Wow, I didn't realize Warped9 had kids..."

I'll check this out, although I may watch some of their TOS reviews first, to gauge how their tastes line up with mine.

They really liked TOS overall. I followed all their reviews of each episode. While there were some they were lukewarm about they liked most of the episodes in varying degree and were disappointed when their series watch was over—they wanted more. Now they’re doing TAS then onto the films then TNG.

These guys are professed Star Wars fans who claim to have never really paid much attention to Trek, and say they knew next to nothing about TOS and TAS. Their reactions seem to support their claim. When they began their TOS watch/reactions they had actually expected it to be more like the camp 1960’s Batman series. They were pleasantly surprised with TOS’ serious and dramatic tone as well as its darker moments.

And they liked the third season generally more than many long time fans seem to.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Cool. I don't always enjoy first time reaction videos, but I like them well enough if the reviewers aren't annoying and they're open minded about stuff from before their time. If they're just about mocking whatever they're watching, that quickly becomes tiresome.

 

[drt]

When they began their TOS watch/reactions they had actually expected it to be more like the camp 1960’s Batman series. They were pleasantly surprised with TOS’ serious and dramatic tone as well as its darker moments.

Not surprising, I recall throughout the 90s TOS was often described as being campy and cheesy, so I bet a lot of people think it would be like Batman. It was also a popular subject for lampooning, which couldn’t have helped matters.

 

[Warped9]

Cool. I don't always enjoy first time reaction videos, but I like them well enough if the reviewers aren't annoying and they're open minded about stuff from before their time. If they're just about mocking whatever they're watching, that quickly becomes tiresome.

The first two seasons they watched the TOS-R versions. Third season they watched the original fx versions. They never complained about the fx or production standards and even thought some of them were quite good.

 

[Lord Garth]

Cool. I don't always enjoy first time reaction videos, but I like them well enough if the reviewers aren't annoying and they're open minded about stuff from before their time. If they're just about mocking whatever they're watching, that quickly becomes tiresome.

Shortly before they started the third season, I binged their reactions to the first two seasons, and have been following them ever since. In fact, they were looking for a new Editor, and -- for those who don't know -- I'm an Editor and Videographer, so I sent them an email, and now I'm editing their reactions. Not all of them, but I'm part of their editing team now. "The Magicks of Megas-Tu" is the first reaction of theirs I edited.

I wouldn't have done that if I didn't like their reactions.

 

[drt]

I'm part of their editing team now. "The Magicks of Megas-Tu" is the first reaction of theirs I edited.

Hey, congratulations!

 

[Warped9]

Kirk defends the devil! Certainly different.

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[publiusr]

Lucian needed the Brian Blessed treatment.
I dreamed the Pilgrim guy was going to whip me once.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

First euthanasia and then Satanism? Did they NOT KNOW this was a Saturday morning cartoon?

I think I was aware, even in 1973, that this one was transgressive, and basically a gob of spit hurled at religion in America.

 

[Noname Given]

First euthanasia and then Satanism? Did they NOT KNOW this was a Saturday morning cartoon?

I think I was aware, even in 1973, that this one was transgressive, and basically a gob of spit hurled at religion in America.

And in Yesteryear, Spock deals with the death of a beloved pet (Ichya) that didn't die in the original timeline.

My point? I sure there was many family discussions regard the death of pets afterwards.

 

[Commishsleer]

Another one liked. I, too, like this one, but the oversized Spock clone is just too stupid.

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I think I'm the only one in existence that actually likes the oversize Spock. The overall plan seems a bit overcomplicated to me though but not outstandingly bad.
I have been trying to find a podcast about TOS without it being hatefull. Star Trek podcasts all seem to be run by TNG fans who are only analysing TOS episodes to make fun of them and praise up Picard by comparison.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

I have been trying to find a podcast about TOS without it being hatefull. Star Trek podcasts all seem to be run by TNG fans who are only analysing TOS episodes to make fun of them and praise up Picard by comparison.

I enjoyed the Mission Log podcast back when they were covering TOS.

 

[Tango]

I thought Mission Log was good when they covered the first pilot, TOS, TAS, the original cast movies, and TNG. When they went on to DS9 I rapidly lost interest and stopped. I like DS9, but maybe its different flavour from earlier Treks required a different approach to a podcast than what they had been using up to that point.

 

[Lord Garth]

I think I'm the only one in existence that actually likes the oversize Spock. The overall plan seems a bit overcomplicated to me though but not outstandingly bad.

I like Spock 2.

I have been trying to find a podcast about TOS without it being hatefull. Star Trek podcasts all seem to be run by TNG fans who are only analysing TOS episodes to make fun of them and praise up Picard by comparison.

Sci-Fi Dog Lady also has reactions to TOS. I've only seen a few of her reactions, but she doesn't give off an "I'm a TNG Fan!" vibe.

The Sci-Fi Dog Lady - YouTube

I envy these first-time reactors. Too bad I can't turn the clock back 30 years... But anyway, it's nice to see reactions from people who are discovering Star Trek for the first time, as opposed to people who either know the show cold, have baggage, turned jaded, or (worst-case scenario) turned into anti-fans.

Turning it back to Target Audience: the fact that they not only didn't grow up with TOS, but weren't even born yet when the last TOS Movie came out, and they still like the series speaks well of it.

 

[publiusr]

TAS has a nobility and level of seriousness we don't see in a post Sam Raimi world of wisecracks. Now for them to watch the Filmation Flash Gordon

 

[JonnyQuest037]

I thought Mission Log was good when they covered the first pilot, TOS, TAS, the original cast movies, and TNG. When they went on to DS9 I rapidly lost interest and stopped.

That was pretty much my experience with them too.

And since that time, they replaced one of the hosts with someone I knew back in art school and absolutely hated, so there's no way I'm going to listen to it again. I didn't care about that guy's opinions on Star Trek back in the mid 90s, and I certainly don't care about them now.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Well, I've sampled four episodes of the Target Audience reaction videos now (COTEOF, "Mirror, Mirror," "The Infinite Vulcan," and "Yesteryear"), and I don't think they're for me.

I like that they're genuinely positive about TOS and TAS and they sincerely like them, but on the other hand, they don't have much that's very interesting to say. Way too many moments of them just sitting there silently when something significant happens on the show, which kind of defeats the purpose of doing a reaction video, IMO.

Ah, well.

 

[Mytran]

And since that time, they replaced one of the hosts with someone I knew back in art school and absolutely hated, so there's no way I'm going to listen to it again. I didn't care about that guy's opinions on Star Trek back in the mid 90s, and I certainly don't care about them now.

I don't have the same personal history with any of the hosts, but I do agree that the dynamic of the podcast changed when Ken Ray left and I didn't find it as compelling to listen to. The right mix of hosts really is vital - I was a keen listener to "Standard Orbit" for many years when I discovered it, but scouring their podcast history was a mixed bag, depending on who the hosts were during which time period.

I thought Mission Log was good when they covered the first pilot, TOS, TAS, the original cast movies, and TNG. When they went on to DS9 I rapidly lost interest and stopped. I like DS9, but maybe its different flavour from earlier Treks required a different approach to a podcast than what they had been using up to that point.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there - I also lost enthusiasm when they moved onto DS9 and Ken was still host for the first couple of seasons. I've dipped in and out since then but they've yet to re-hook me.

For me what I enjoy about Target Audience is that their reactions are genuine and sometimes different to what Trekkies usually offer. Also, their videos aren't hours long

 

[Lord Garth]

Even though he only reacted to the Movies, It's A Primate is also a YouTuber who genuinely liked what he saw from the original cast. I wish he could've gone into TOS itself, but I don't think that's where his audience is.

ItsAPrimate - YouTube

 

[Donald G]

I like Spock 2.

Sci-Fi Dog Lady also has reactions to TOS. I've only seen a few of her reactions, but she doesn't give off an "I'm a TNG Fan!" vibe.

The Sci-Fi Dog Lady - YouTube

I envy these first-time reactors. Too bad I can't turn the clock back 30 years... But anyway, it's nice to see reactions from people who are discovering Star Trek for the first time, as opposed to people who either know the show cold, have baggage, turned jaded, or (worst-case scenario) turned into anti-fans.

Turning it back to Target Audience: the fact that they not only didn't grow up with TOS, but weren't even born yet when the last TOS Movie came out, and they still like the series speaks well of it.

Unfortunately, I find Sci-Fi Dog Lady too impatient with the unfolding of the narrative and her impatience makes her come across as angry.

I see this impatience with allowing a narrative unfold afflicting a lot of non-Trek reactors, as well. They're trying too much to anticipate the narrative and seem to think that not having the answers immediately after they think of a question about the plot is a failure of the narrative. If they'd just wait a couple of seconds, the next sentence or two - the very sentences they're talking over with their questions and objections - frequently answer their very questions and objections.

Too many YouTube reactors just don't seem to know how dramatic storytelling actually works.