Tarantino and Abrams to Do Next Trek Movie

[Jack Watkins]

It's amazing how these kind of comments were acceptable 15 years ago, and how some are only now realizing that drugging and raping minors is wrong. It's long overdue that people like Tarantino answer for such despicable comments.

Speaking of which; I am beyond disappointed that Roman Polanski has taken so little heat after the Weinstein scandal. He's a convicted rapist, and I don't care if a plea bargain blew up in his face, he deserves to be ostracized from the Hollywood community. Woody Allen was at least exonerated in a court of law (I'm not defending him), so what's Polanski's excuse?

As for Star Trek, the movie franchise is on thin ice as is, and letting Tarantino take over is too risky. An R-rated Trek from a man known for over-the-top violence, sex, and language always felt like a cheap ploy to invigorate an uncool franchise. I've said it about Discovery, and I'll say it about Tarantino: Trek should be open to audiences of all ages.

 

[fireproof78]

Speaking of which; I am beyond disappointed that Roman Polanski has taken so little heat after the Weinstein scandal. He's a convicted rapist, and I don't care if a plea bargain blew up in his face, he deserves to be ostracized from the Hollywood community. Woody Allen was at least exonerated in a court of law (I'm not defending him), so what's Polanski's excuse?

Because he still has defenders.

 

[Commishsleer]

Tarantino has done a big Deadline interview about the Kill Bill accident etc so maybe that will smooth everything over now

So he's got an interviewer whos very sympathetic to him.
Tarantino downplays his role in the crash but when it comes down to it he was responsible
He claims other people were responsible for hiding the footage and not paying compensation (and some of that may be true as names were redacted from Thurman's interview). I don't think that's Thurman's main complaint though - it was probably more that Tarantino sided with Weinstein a bit too much - over both the assault and over the crash.

I don't know if everything will be smoothed over. In a way he conspired with Weinstein and rightly or wrongly thats not OK in this climate. But a lot of people did and its probably not fair he's singled out.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

I really wonder what more could've been done about Weinstein.

Tarantino, Kevin Smith, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, George Clooney and Brad Pitt all said they confronted Weinstein about his behavior. But nothing came of it until recently. I think the rumor was that it Robert Weinstien, that outed his brother Harvey's dirty laundry and forced him out of the company they co-runned.

While women like Salma Hayek, Hallie Berry, Rose McGowan, Angelina Jolie, Lupita Nyong'o and now Uma Thurman had shared their stories about Weinstein's sexual predator behavior.

Then you have women like Meryl Streep, Oprah Winfrey, and Gwenth Paltrow, who supported (thanked during award shows) and considered Harvey a friend. Despite his behavior being an open secret in Hollywood since the 90s.


There are clearly guilty parties in Hollywood. However, I don't think we can hold people like Tarantino accountable for the actions of others. There's been inaction on behalf of a lot of people with the various sex abuse scandals. We punish and prosecute guilty parties. Guilt by associations in this case is a slippery slope, that's best avoided.

 

[Mudd]

Regardless of what they do, soldier on or cut bait, it is just more PR egg on Paramount's face where Abrams Trek is concerned.

Has anyone paid any attention to any of this "PR egg" other than trekkies up until now?

 

[BillJ]

Has anyone paid any attention to any of this "PR egg" other than trekkies up until now?

Probably not.

 

[pst]

honestly, paramount can't do anything right these days: two years of crummy numbers at the box office, the issues with the cloverfield paradox and annihilation, now this.

i hope they cut tarantino loose. the vast majority of people don't know he's even attached to trek 4, not sure the best way for them to find out is as an aside in reports about his sexual misconduct and abuse against women.

 

[fireproof78]

honestly, paramount can't do anything right these days: two years of crummy numbers at the box office, the issues with the cloverfield paradox and annihilation, now this.

i hope they cut tarantino loose. the vast majority of people don't know he's even attached to trek 4, not sure the best way for them to find out is as an aside in reports about his sexual misconduct and abuse against women.

Exactly. Ridiculous to hook their wagon to this horse at this stage.

 

[Apparition B5]

It's amazing how these kind of comments were acceptable 15 years ago, and how some are only now realizing that drugging and raping minors is wrong. It's long overdue that people like Tarantino answer for such despicable comments.

Speaking of which; I am beyond disappointed that Roman Polanski has taken so little heat after the Weinstein scandal. He's a convicted rapist, and I don't care if a plea bargain blew up in his face, he deserves to be ostracized from the Hollywood community. Woody Allen was at least exonerated in a court of law (I'm not defending him), so what's Polanski's excuse?

As for Star Trek, the movie franchise is on thin ice as is, and letting Tarantino take over is too risky. An R-rated Trek from a man known for over-the-top violence, sex, and language always felt like a cheap ploy to invigorate an uncool franchise. I've said it about Discovery, and I'll say it about Tarantino: Trek should be open to audiences of all ages.

Those kind of comments were only acceptable fifteen years ago by the Hollywood liberal elite who kept supporting a convicted rapist that fled the country because he was one of "their own." Now it's just coming back to haunt them, finally.

 

[donners22]

Not even 15 years ago; the likes of Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese, Darren Aronofsky and David Lynch protested his arrest in 2009.

 

[Commishsleer]

Not even 15 years ago; the likes of Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese, Darren Aronofsky and David Lynch protested his arrest in 2009.

Of course Woody Allen would defend him.
The incident was a long time ago and Polanski has some sympathy for the loss of his wife and unborn child - and the girl and her mother weren't that unwilling. I know shes not capable of giving consent but every interview she's given says she's cool with the way things went. And we should be glad that she wasn't traumatised for life like so many girls in her position are. So thats IMO why there's a bit of sympathy for Polanski.

Did Tarantino say Polanski and the 13-year old were "dating"? I wondered what they talked about on their dates. Its ridiculous that anyone could defend that except maybe Woody Allen. Still its a 15-year old interview and maybe his views have changed.

 

[Jack Watkins]

Did Tarantino say Polanski and the 13-year old were "dating"? I wondered what they talked about on their dates. Its ridiculous that anyone could defend that except maybe Woody Allen. Still its a 15-year old interview and maybe his views have changed.

Have his view changed? It's possible. I think we've all had uninformed and sometimes gross opinions; things we express out of ignorance or peer pressure. Still, these heinous views were being contested while he said them, so he had common sense in his face and chose to ignore it. Blow back is appropriate.

My prediction is that his career will survive, but the Manson film is dead and he won't do Star Trek.

 

[Khan 2.0]

My prediction is that his career will survive, but the Manson film is dead and he won't do Star Trek.

Maybe if Manson movie is dead he can direct Trek instead for a 2019 release

 

[Jack Watkins]

Maybe if Manson movie is dead he can direct Trek instead for a 2019 release

Yes, I can see it now... "From the mind that brought you statutory consent and female face spitting comes a majestic journey into the final frontier, Muthaf*ckas!"

 

[fireproof78]

My prediction is that his career will survive, but the Manson film is dead and he won't do Star Trek.

I lean this way as well.

 

[Saul]

Those kind of comments were only acceptable fifteen years ago by the Hollywood liberal elite who kept supporting a convicted rapist that fled the country because he was one of "their own." Now it's just coming back to haunt them, finally.

I'm afraid it was more than the liberal elite. These comments have been available to the public for 15 years. Not just now. Nobody bat an eyelid back then nor in all this time. When the Hollywood elite gave a standing ovation to Polanski for the Pianist when he wasn't there who the fuck said anything about it? Millions of people watched it.
None of this is new. The only thing new here is that it's relevant now and it's part of the media's take down of Tarantino. They'll find more stuff to dig up before they move onto the next person.

 

[pst]

Maybe if Manson movie is dead he can direct Trek instead for a 2019 release

 

[fireproof78]

None of this is new. The only thing new here is that it's relevant now and it's part of the media's take down of Tarantino. They'll find more stuff to dig up before they move onto the next person.

So, it's a cultural shift. Yeah, that's a pretty big new thing.

 

[M-Red]

Does anyone even care about letting someone defend themselves before they take up the pitchforks and start the tar-and-feather process?

Has anyone even bothered to actually read QT's interview and his response to questions?

Does anyone even care that he maintains a great relationship with Uma Thurman? Or that *HE* is the one who actually went back through old video footage and provided the clip of the crash for her?

The postmodern mob is no better than the medieval mob.

And those of you *constantly* preach tolerance and inclusion and diversity from one side of your mouth while also constantly using the words "white" and "male" as pejoratives are nothing short of fucking scary.

 

[sttngfan1701d]

The media is gonna do what they do. Twitter is gonna do what it does. At this point I'm no longer surprised by anything. How many people have said stupid crap on Howard Stern's show over the 30-odd years he's done it? How many times has Howard Stern said stupid crap?

The only reason this interview was exhumed is because Uma Thurman didn't tar and feather Tarantino in her statement with the crash footage, said they smoothed things over, and the ultimate blame lay elsewhere. That displeased the media, who had already written several outrage articles in an attempted takedown (and probably had more in the hopper ready to go). So without Uma, they took matters into their own hands, and here we are. They'll move on if he retires.

I still enjoy his films (especially Kill Bill). If he never makes another, we still have 8 modern masterpieces. If he never makes the next Trek, that's a shame, because the prospect was exciting.