Amen. Nicholas Meyer and Harve Bennett were also not Trek fans. Also made some of the best Trek movies ever.
Tarantino and Abrams to Do Next Trek Movie
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Amen. Nicholas Meyer and Harve Bennett were also not Trek fans. Also made some of the best Trek movies ever.
Fair point I do like JJ's Treks. And Meyer & Bennett weren't fans before? They did possibly my favourite era of Trek!
The advantage of new people is they have potentially less baggage
Yes, Meyer had not seen a frame of Star Trek before being tapped by Bennett for TWOK. Then he had to take eight disparate drafts and assemble them to a cohesive whole. TWOK may not be my favorite film, but it blows me away with the production work.
There is nothing that makes a fan more qualified to make a film over a nonfan if they are a professional.
Probably not the best, but they're OK.
No blood and gore, and yet:
Run that by me about the franchise not having gory scenes again?
This is a drama with human beings in it, and human beings go through shit with their spouses/lovers occasionally. You and others like you have been affected by the passionless crap 'characterization' that was on TNG for way, way too long in which characters had no conflict because all of it was external, but you forget one this; this is TOS, where people do have conflicts with each other. Just having Uhura be nothing but a butt-kicker diminishes her and makes her one dimensional, as if she can be nothing but an action princess. Perhaps you should stick to TNG and Voyager.
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No blood and gore, and yet:
Run that by me about the franchise not having gory scenes again?
Those scenes are not "blood and gore". They are super tame compared to what we see today. When I say "blood and gore", I mean this:
TWOK scene is more disturbing and scary though, while the Kingsman one is so over the top it is not scary—more like the over the top stuff in Shoot ‘Em Up (which I love but is not for the squeamish).
I really, really doubt Tarantino would take Trek in this direction.
I'm rooting for a reboot of Spock's Brain. Imagine the possibilities.
From the original interview I think Tarantino respects Star Trek or at least gave it some research and thought. I thought he was interested in an Ent C film. Which was between TOS and TNG and would therefore feature neither cast. Maybe that was just an idea off the top of his head.
I see that Patrick Stewart has said he'd be interested in a QT Star Trek film. Does he know something?
I see that Patrick Stewart has said he'd be interested in a QT Star Trek film. Does he know something?
Scalpings. Deep scalpings.
QT sited City on the Edge of Forever (could use the legendary unmade version?) and Yesterday’s Enterprise
I guess people have different sensibilities. For me, its the other way around. The TWOK scenes don't bother me in the slightest. Yes, they are intense but they don't make me squeamish at all. But the church fight in Kingsman and the fights in Shoot 'Em Up make me so squeamish that I can't watch them.
Yeah, I can't watch TWOK because of those scenes. Freaks me out to this day. Fine film, but *shudders*
It's be funny of Tarantino's Trek has one or no deaths at all.
I would not be remotely surprised if that’s the way he goes. Heck..a favoutprite film Tarantino and I share is Chunking Express, which has like one...subdued...shoot out scene. The rest of it is basically beautifully shot mundaneness. In terms of Tarantinos work...there’s often gore because of the setups he chooses. Given a Trek setup, there may not be any, or he may just go with phaser vapes if he goes for action at all. He has a film geek pedigree, and I can see him going for a reattempt at TMP or even Voyage Home in style.
But...we will see I guess.
Bad guy dies quietly in his sleep!
In DS9 most notably we saw another side of the Trek universe that might be more appropriate for a Tarantino movie. The darker, more criminal, violent dimension of this world. One where Mudd, Cyrano Jones, Quark, the Orion Sndicate, slave dealers, genetic enhancement providers, arms dealers, and the kind of people Bones tried to charter a space flight with inhabit. A straightforward Starfleet hero ship confronts the dangerous and unknown just doesnt seem like the right focus for him, even if some Starfleet characters are involved.
Also, if you are the sort of guy who has been looking forward to gratuitous close up shots of Zoe Saldanas bare feet, youre in for a treat.
Also, if you are the sort of guy who has been looking forward to gratuitous close up shots of Zoe Saldanas bare feet, youre in for a treat.
Drug dealers on the Enterprise? Imagine the fandom meltdown
That's the issue for me. Star Trek doesn't truly work as a film franchise, so any attempt in trying to popularize Trek through film medium like Star Wars is futile because that's not where its strengths lie. The Trek films for a long time had existed as supplements to the previous shows. The appeal was seeing your favorite characters from tv have adventures on the big screen. They were essentially more extravagant tv reunions seeing how the characters have turned out in their later years.
The Bad Robot films are an anomaly. They're supposed to be big screen adaptations of TOS, but need to shake things up in order to feel like a progression, but being a remake of episodic television kind of hurts that because things have to return to the status quo for the characters. INTO DARKNESS and BEYOND essentially end the same way as the first, with Kirk's crew warping off to the next adventure with no serious repercussions to the crew dynamic. Imagine if INTO DARKNESS actually killed Kirk and the film series committed to it without resurrection? That would have made things exciting for a third film. Does Spock take command or someone else? How do the crew cope with it? It would have been controversial and ballsy, but it might have made a bigger splash than "did you hear? Cumberbatch was Khan all along" "who?".
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