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SyFy's inconsistent use of HD

Mr. Laser Beam

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I just watched an episode of SG-1 (Revisions) on SyFy's HD channel. The episode itself was not in HD, though. It was surrounded by bars on all four sides. Which suggests that the episode was originally *shot* in HD, just that SyFy chose not to show it that way.

What's odd is that an Atlantis episode was on right before this, and it was in full high definition.

So what's the deal? Why does SyFy show SGA in HD, but not SG-1? :confused:
 
Revisions was a season seven episode. They hadn't started broadcasting in HD yet. Probably don't have a copy of the episode in HD on hand at all.
 
Revisions was a season seven episode. They hadn't started broadcasting in HD yet. Probably don't have a copy of the episode in HD on hand at all.

But the episode as I saw it was in letterbox. I realize that the show could have been filmed in widescreen but not HD, but I find this unlikely.

At first I thought that SyFy doesn't have the *rights* to show SG-1 in HD (as is the case for Enterprise, which for some unknown reason only HDNet is allowed to show in HD), but then why was the SGA episode right before it, in HD? :confused:
 
Its likely a matter of whether Scifi has an HD master for the episode. If they don't have it they probably won't until they have to resign with MGM for the rights to the episode. They probably have a widescreen SD master for the episode so they chose to air it that way. Its likely not inconsistent. Anything originally airing after some certain date that they began acquiring the episodes in HD in will be probably be in HD anything before will not.
 
Revisions was a season seven episode. They hadn't started broadcasting in HD yet. Probably don't have a copy of the episode in HD on hand at all.

But the episode as I saw it was in letterbox. I realize that the show could have been filmed in widescreen but not HD, but I find this unlikely.

Stargate SG-1 was not shot for HD until a few episodes in to season eight. Atlantis, which started at the same time as season eight of SG-1, was always shot with HD in mind.

It was shot with widescreen in mind from day one, with the visual effects shots taking that in to account, however.

There are no HD masters for Sci-Fi to use. I won't speculate on the possibility of creating them at some point.
 
Stargate SG-1 was not shot for HD until a few episodes in to season eight. Atlantis, which started at the same time as season eight of SG-1, was always shot with HD in mind.

It was shot with widescreen in mind from day one, with the visual effects shots taking that in to account, however.

There are no HD masters for Sci-Fi to use. I won't speculate on the possibility of creating them at some point.

Perhaps it was not consistently shot in HD until then, but there were a few episodes they did with HD cameras earlier, as experiments. I think "Entity" was the first.
 
Stargate SG-1 was not shot for HD until a few episodes in to season eight. Atlantis, which started at the same time as season eight of SG-1, was always shot with HD in mind.

It was shot with widescreen in mind from day one, with the visual effects shots taking that in to account, however.

There are no HD masters for Sci-Fi to use. I won't speculate on the possibility of creating them at some point.

Perhaps it was not consistently shot in HD until then, but there were a few episodes they did with HD cameras earlier, as experiments. I think "Entity" was the first.

Experiments, sure, but the final episodes were most likely still delivered for broadcast in SD and edited as such as well.

Going back a bit further, TNG was shot on film but edited on video. A recent episode of HD Nation discussed the topic of shows like Friends and Seinfeld being released in HD. Since both were shot on film but edited on video they'd both have to be re-edited from the original film.
 
Doctor Who is another one that has been in widescreen but won't be in HD until the new unaired season. Broadcasters have been pretty consistent across the board of not airing widescreen content in anamorphic widescreen unless it is in HD. They could flag it so it would play as it does when you watch the episode on DVD but they do not.
 
I thought seasons 8-10 have been shown that way, but I could be wrong. I mostly see Atlantis on the channel these days, for some reason.
 
Seasons 8, 9, and 10 aired in HD on SkyOne in the UK, so they are out there. SyFy hasn't aired season 8-10 episodes in HD since my cable system started carrying it over a year ago.
 
Going back a bit further, TNG was shot on film but edited on video. A recent episode of HD Nation discussed the topic of shows like Friends and Seinfeld being released in HD. Since both were shot on film but edited on video they'd both have to be re-edited from the original film.

TBS shows "Seinfeld" in HD all the time - in 16x9, no less. According to wikipedia, they used the 35mm originals to restore image on the side while cropping the top and bottom.
 
Seasons 8, 9, and 10 aired in HD on SkyOne in the UK, so they are out there. SyFy hasn't aired season 8-10 episodes in HD since my cable system started carrying it over a year ago.

Yet, they still air everything before season seven (which was first run the same year Sky One switched to widescreen) in 4:3.
 
Doctor Who is another one that has been in widescreen but won't be in HD until the new unaired season.

Actually, the transition was last year. They've been shooting Doctor Who in HD since "Planet of the Dead".

Ahh right, I was thinking of series proper and forgot about the specials, especially since I don't have BBC America HD yet so I haven't seen them in HD (well not on TV anyway). All the cable channels I care about I have in HD but that one.
 
TBS shows "Seinfeld" in HD all the time - in 16x9, no less. According to wikipedia, they used the 35mm originals to restore image on the side while cropping the top and bottom.

That doesn't even make any sense.

If they went back to the 35mm originals, they wouldn't chop the tops and bottoms off the picture. The side material (chopped off for earlier 4x3 airings) would be there, and the picture would be fine for 16x9.

As a side point, it'd be odd if SG1 was "filmed in SD".

Old episodes of Star Trek, on film, can be converted to HD. All it takes is recording the filmed material on HD video.

The "HD" was already there. Traditional TV just wasn't able to display the full quality of the filmed material, nor have even DVDs been able to.

Same would be true with SG1. The only problem might be special effects, but since even the gatesplash was originally done for a movie screen, that at least would exist in HD.

SyFy not running episodes in HD would be for the reasons already given-

They don't have HD copies of the episodes.

Similar thing happened when they wanted to run Babylon 5 in its widescreen format. The show had been filmed in a way that allowed for it to be shown in widescreen, but no copies had been made in U.S. TV format in widescreen.

They had to have a whole new set of films made up in letterboxed widescreen.

When things got up to season two, tho', someone at Warner messed up and instead of using the original films, they used the 4x3 copies and then cropped those to 16x9 and made letterboxed films out of those.

Fans picked up on what'd happened when they noticed people's chins and foreheads missing on closeups. (And some just plain recognized that the video was nothing but the 4x3 version with black bars on the top and bottom.)

If you want to see SG1 in HD, it'll have to wait until someone makes up copies for SyFy to run.
 
^^ Most stuff shot on 35mm is ~1:35:1 and matted to become widescreen so the top and bottom would be cropped to make Seinfeld widescreen.
 
But the episode as I saw it was in letterbox. I realize that the show could have been filmed in widescreen but not HD, but I find this unlikely.
You can find it as unlikely as you want, but it's the case. Widescreen masters exist for SG-1 going back to the pilot, and that's how the DVDs were released. However, HD masters were only created starting with season 8.
 
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