My options are Verizon FiOS and Comcast Xfinity. Considering Comcast is basically evil incarnate, it's an easy choice.
I got an email today from Verizon saying that I could get their Verizon Wireless-At-Home service, "for people who have few service choices." It was nice to know someone was noticing, but unfortunately, the price they quoted was steep for what was offered and what I need.My options are Verizon FiOS and Comcast Xfinity. Considering Comcast is basically evil incarnate, it's an easy choice.
I'm preparing to switch from DSL to a cellular connection in the near future using a Cradlepoint router. I should get about four to five times the speed I'm currently getting with DSL.I only have one option for internet, and that's through our local cable company. There are literally zero other internet service providers in my area.
Around here, DSL has pretty much given up. My speed is 5 Mbps Down/0.68 Mbps Up, and I pay about $50 a month for the privilege. To be fair, I live in a farm town, but still, if I want really solid speed better than DSL, I have to with Time Warner, and where I live they're outrageous. The only thing I have going for me is stability.
To be fair, DSL can be much faster than that. The offer I got was for DSL 50,000, i.e. 50 Mbps nominally which would probably amount to about 33 Mbps in practise in my case. But there are also people who get that speed (it depends on a number of factors).
Even my current connection is faster than yours and I get frustrated about the lack of bandwidth pretty often. (I pay 30 € a month for it, the new contract would be slightly more.)
Oh yeah, it can be, depending upon where you are. Where I am, I'm just on the fringe of the service area. In downtown Cincinnati, you can easily get speeds of 20-50 Mbps. I am nowhere near that. I practically have cows as neighbors.
I wish our ISP wouldn't charge us the same price that, in Cincinnati, would otherwise get you speeds of up to 20 Mbps. Just because we live further away doesn't mean we should be gouged. I mean, if we're getting 5 Mbps, charge us for what you'd pay to get 10 Mbps. Then again, part of why we get charged so much is because they haven't upgraded our equipment out here. I got promises all last month saying that we'd be getting 10 Mbps speeds for about the same as what we're paying for 5 Mbps speeds, and that any day now it would be done. Well, it's all done everywhere else but here. Right now, there are people getting 1 Gigabit speeds in Cincinnati, 100 Mbps speeds 5 miles south of here, and we're still stuck with 5 Mbps speeds, and still paying out the nose for it.
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Oh I agree I'm stuck on ADSL up to 8Mb at the moment not even ADSL2 which is upto 16Mb, and the cost of fibre when it eventually comes (which will hopefully be in the next few months) won't be much more for up to 40Mb. Yes I might live in a more rural area (and due to how the market works in the UK, I can't get any of these great deals providers offer because my telephone exchange is classed as Market 1 which is a BT only exchange non-LLU which means I can't get deals which I could if my exhancge was a market 2 and LLU) I sort of resent of having having to pay more for an inferior service. Esp when for the last few years the price BT can charge my provider has con down by something like 8% Year on Year below inflation, yet my charge didn't come down to reflect that.
Ofcom the UK regulator should have impossed charging restrictions on ADSL vs ADSL2 something like if the cost for upto 16Mb ADSL was £20/m, then providers could only charge £10/m for ADSL1 customers.
Oh I agree I'm stuck on ADSL up to 8Mb at the moment not even ADSL2 which is upto 16Mb, and the cost of fibre when it eventually comes (which will hopefully be in the next few months) won't be much more for up to 40Mb. Yes I might live in a more rural area (and due to how the market works in the UK, I can't get any of these great deals providers offer because my telephone exchange is classed as Market 1 which is a BT only exchange non-LLU which means I can't get deals which I could if my exhancge was a market 2 and LLU) I sort of resent of having having to pay more for an inferior service. Esp when for the last few years the price BT can charge my provider has con down by something like 8% Year on Year below inflation, yet my charge didn't come down to reflect that.
Ofcom the UK regulator should have impossed charging restrictions on ADSL vs ADSL2 something like if the cost for upto 16Mb ADSL was £20/m, then providers could only charge £10/m for ADSL1 customers.
I sympathize, I really do. Right now I'm getting the same speed my friend does, except he has a mobile phone, and he also has an unlimited plan, and it still comes out to less than what I pay per month.![]()
It really is, but there are no real choices around here.Oh I agree I'm stuck on ADSL up to 8Mb at the moment not even ADSL2 which is upto 16Mb, and the cost of fibre when it eventually comes (which will hopefully be in the next few months) won't be much more for up to 40Mb. Yes I might live in a more rural area (and due to how the market works in the UK, I can't get any of these great deals providers offer because my telephone exchange is classed as Market 1 which is a BT only exchange non-LLU which means I can't get deals which I could if my exhancge was a market 2 and LLU) I sort of resent of having having to pay more for an inferior service. Esp when for the last few years the price BT can charge my provider has con down by something like 8% Year on Year below inflation, yet my charge didn't come down to reflect that.
Ofcom the UK regulator should have impossed charging restrictions on ADSL vs ADSL2 something like if the cost for upto 16Mb ADSL was £20/m, then providers could only charge £10/m for ADSL1 customers.
I sympathize, I really do. Right now I'm getting the same speed my friend does, except he has a mobile phone, and he also has an unlimited plan, and it still comes out to less than what I pay per month.![]()
That's the real rub isn't it, paying more for less.
Why would competitors want to enter a market where they can't be expected to make money?i.e they have to provide the service at cost or below cost, until they either upgrade to provider faster speeds or competition comes in to drive down prices
That's interesting about Denmark. As I've said before, I thought Europe was pretty well wired, but it seems not as well wired as I initially thought.In Denmark you theoretically have a choice of about half a dozen providers for internet. However, several of them are owned by the same company so it would be like saying Google and Youtube were both competing with each other. In practice many areas don't have DSL that is very good. It can take up to 6 weeks to order DSL when you move in. Most people end up going with the service setup by the local homeowners association or apartment association which basically buys access in bulk from one of 3 or 4 different cable companies. The cable companies offer similar services to the US. There are also a group of about a dozen electric utilities that started offering fiber optics service in parts of the country. Where this service is available it has taken a lot of the market share due to having faster bandwidth and lower prices.
You're still in Berlin, CZ? Depending on where you are in the city, you may have fibre options available.Yeah, Germany missed the boat on the fibre optic cable front and there's no substantial improvement in sight. Most internet is either by DSL or cable, DSL being more common.
Add in the recent net neutrality debate, and you've got a huge sector of unhappy people. Of course, since there is essentially a monopoly in the U.S., people have no real choices.Its all relative. Compared to the US, Denmark is much more connected with between 99% and 100% of citizens using the Internet, while in the US there are about 25% of the citizens who do not use it. Estonia and South Korea are some of the world leaders in internet connectivity. For the most part people in Denmark are happy with the Internet they get and the price they pay. In the US people are not happy because of frequent price hikes and problems with slowdowns along with usage based pricing 'trials' in some areas.
Thanks for the explanation.
It seems my ISP is using this as a pretext to get people to agree to contracts that are a bit more expensive in the long run and also run longer but don't have unlimited data volume. I think I'll be switiching providers instead at some point.
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