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Survivor Season 35

Not just looking cool on TV, looking cool to the jury.

I don't think it was dumb at all. It destroyed the morale of the other side and got in their heads, it was a psychological move. He would never have gotten the other half from her. If he didn't throw out the shell, there would have been a big drama back at camp when he refused to give it back which would have created a narrative that made him look bad and made him a target.

Yeah, don't get that challenge. Might as well have done "I'm thinking of a number from 1 to 10".
 
I respect Chrissy's gameplay move to target Ashley to secure Devon's loyalty. I think she is playing a smart game but I still don't think she has much of a chance for votes in the finals because of her attitude.
 
I respect Chrissy's gameplay move to target Ashley to secure Devon's loyalty. I think she is playing a smart game but I still don't think she has much of a chance for votes in the finals because of her attitude.
One may hope that the jury will get over being bitter and reward smart game play.

The rest of them were just moronic over the idol, though. They all should have been hunting for the damn thing. And yeah, they tried to be so suspenseful by not showing Ben finding it... but of course we knew he would, because otherwise why spend so much airtime on the search?

As far as I'm concerned, Chrissy deserves to win this thing. Granted, she's not as likable as a couple of others, but she's got the smartest gameplay.

They have to get rid of Ben next, or he'll just walk through the physical portion of the final challenge.
 
I expect it will be the usual two-hour finale, with the hour-long aftermath. At this point, I'm willing to take anybody except Ben.

Any word on when the next season of Amazing Race will be?
 
I finally found Ashley's Ponderosa video (it wasn't labeled properly):

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I expect it will be the usual two-hour finale, with the hour-long aftermath. At this point, I'm willing to take anybody except Ben.

Any word on when the next season of Amazing Race will be?

There was a brief corner of the screen ad for it during Survivor, January 3.

Though I think you may vomit when you look up who is on the race this season.

I'll give you a hint. Out of all the people in the universe, these are the two people you want the least to see on your television again.
 
There was a brief corner of the screen ad for it during Survivor, January 3.

Though I think you may vomit when you look up who is on the race this season.

I'll give you a hint. Out of all the people in the universe, these are the two people you want the least to see on your television again.
Cody and Jessica?!! :angryrazz: :thumbdown: :scream:

I'll stock up on Nerf bricks. I'd hoped to see the last of those two. With any luck they'll get lost, come in last, and be eliminated.

I wonder if the other contestants are going to be treated to Cody brushing his teeth at them when he doesn't want to listen to them, and Jessica keeps telling them to shut up.

If Phil had any input into casting, I have to ask WTF was he thinking?
 
Jessica is going to spend the entire race telling everybody else why they're evil then act shocked when she gets U-Turned.
 
I hate that twist. Besides who it benefitted this time, I think Survivor should stay about the voting dynamics, and there shouldn't be a round that's just about winning challenges.
 
GODDAMMIT! :scream:

He's the Survivor version of Clara (the Doctor Who companion I hate who just never stayed dead).

:censored:
 
I'm not too sad Ben won, though I would have preferred someone else. He was one of the better players in the game, and he only became a target because people were worried they couldn't beat a veteran.

I'm only a little mad that he required a dumb rule change to win.

I liked that that was one of the least bitter juries I've ever seen.
 
I'm not too sad Ben won, though I would have preferred someone else. He was one of the better players in the game, and he only became a target because people were worried they couldn't beat a veteran.
It was nauseating how he played that card at the end. I'm not saying he didn't have a difficult time with a difficult job, but pulling it out like that for the sake of winning a game, rather than emphasizing what he actually did DURING THE GAME... it's not like he fought jihadists on the island.

I'm only a little mad that he required a dumb rule change to win.

I liked that that was one of the least bitter juries I've ever seen.
Ashley was bitter at first, but I guess she mostly got over it. Desi seemed somewhat bitter, though.

I liked that Ryan - who was obviously the third person Chrissy didn't expect to pick up any votes - did get a vote.

How many friggin' idols were there this time? It's become a joke. They need to go back to just one of them - or even none. The first season didn't have any idols.
 
They have one per beach and then they keep exactly one in the game after, replacing the last one whenever it is played.

I like the idols because they add really interesting decisions to the game and they're part of the reason we no longer get those boring seasons where one group just eliminates the other one by one. But yeah, they could probably stick to one per original beach then one after the merge, and once they're played, they're played.

By the way, don't know if you're going to start a thread, but if you have zero interest in Celebrity Big Brother, you have much more than me. I have negative interest. You would have to pay me to watch it.
 
The next one of our usual shows I plan to watch is The Amazing Race - which starts on January 3, according to the promo last night. I don't care about special celebrity editions.

I'll have fun booing and hissing Cody and Jessica and hoping they'll get a taxi driver who takes them to outer Mongolia no matter which continent they're on. At least when they're nasty, it won't be to a captive audience. And it will be interesting to see Phil's reaction to their behavior. It's usually not too hard to tell if he likes a team or not, or if he disapproves of something they did or said.

I'm going to have to readjust some of my TV watching, since Netflix isn't an option in the immediate future (my account was hacked by people who had no trouble at all accessing Netflix's records even less than 5 minutes after I changed my email address and password during a conversation with one of their agents; after I started getting emails in Italian, I told them to kill my account completely - and then notified my telecom so no extra data charges could possibly end up on my account - and Paypal to stop all payments to Netflix).
 
Well, that sucked! To me Chrissy totally deserved to win since she mastered all three phases of the game; outlast, out wit and out play. Her social game was great and she won 4 immunity challenges at the end when it counted. Ben never won a thing and only hung on by finding the far to many hidden idols and then that final "advantage" of the game that Chrissy won which was not an advantage at all for her but just a way for the producers to keep Ben in the game. I mean after all, he was a Marine which I respect but give me a break; it was nauseating how many times he threw that out.
 
If I didn't know that because Survivor is a game show and has to adhere to the rules and regulations of game shows and can't change its own rules partway through, I might think that this "secret advantage" was indeed a desperate bid to give Ben a chance to stay in. It wouldn't have escaped the producers' notice that the other players fully intended to get rid of him.

I've always wondered of Stacy (from the first season) had a valid complaint that the producers orchestrated her ouster because they didn't want the optics of having Rudy (another former Marine and also the last remaining elderly cast member) voted out.

Here is Mike's Ponderosa video:

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And here is Devon's Ponderosa video:

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I don't doubt they planned that change from the beginning. If they were willing to cheat for a contestant, they would have done it for Ozzy about fifty times. Plus I think they're not allowed to change the plan based on desired result.

Although in Amazing Race they did invent the 'This leg is not over' thing because in that year coming in last made you lose all your money and they were in a country where begging was illegal.

What is Stacy's argument, that they directed the conservation to make people think about how strong a person was? They did really, really focus the conversation on that, and they passed a conkshell around which seemed like it might have been some kind of subliminal message to make people think about the Navy. But that would fall under the category of manipulating the contestants at tribal, not changing the rules.

To be fair, Ben finding all those idols was nobody's fault but the other contestants. NONE of them looked for an idol or even watched him when he went out to look for those entire two eliminations. Remember Ben looked at the raft LAST, if any other person was looking for that idol they would have found it.

And I think you're being overly hard on Ben's game. Ben would not have been betrayed by Devon/Lauren/Ashley if they weren't afraid of his story. He had a damn good strategic game until the final seven. If he were not a Marine and a good guy it could have easily continued. He might not have won in the final three but would have had a much easier time getting there.
 
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