Surprised how opinionated Memory Alpha's Voyager season articles are.

[F. King Daniel]

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Why aren't you all contributing? It's kind of fun.

I tried. My only bit that remains is a tiny bit of text about the 2009 Enterprise's warp core ejection. All my other stuff was "too opinionated" (it wasn't. It was about as dry and factual as is humanly possible). My mention of the corridor network behind the bridge was removed too, probably because those corridors wouldn't fit on the ship if it was the "old" size.

I'm just gonna have to start my own STXI Enterprise website!

 

[DonIago]

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Dry and factual is good, but was it cited to a reliable source?

 

[kimc]

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I dont know how anyone can put Endgame in the same category as TATV. TATV is a terrible finale that betrays everything about ENT. Apart from C/7, Endgame is a glorious tribute to the joys of VOY.

Well I consider myself a Voyager fan but "Endgame" has to be the worst finale ever...

 

[F. King Daniel]

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I dont know how anyone can put Endgame in the same category as TATV. TATV is a terrible finale that betrays everything about ENT. Apart from C/7, Endgame is a glorious tribute to the joys of VOY.

Well I consider myself a Voyager fan but "Endgame" has to be the worst finale ever...

Nu-uh. Voyager got a finale episode. Enterprise got an insulting TNG holodeck episode that brushed off a 2-year-long story (Trip and T'Pol) in two lines, and killed off a main character in a pointless five-minute segment that was immidiately forgotten.

 

[HoneyBLilly]

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I dont know how anyone can put Endgame in the same category as TATV. TATV is a terrible finale that betrays everything about ENT. Apart from C/7, Endgame is a glorious tribute to the joys of VOY.

Well I consider myself a Voyager fan but "Endgame" has to be the worst finale ever...

Endgame is OK. It's either third or second on the list of finales, but that matters.

What You Leave Behind is the best. And I hate DS9 so for me to say that, it has to be true.

Now for Endgame's rank it matters on TNG. If you consider All Good Things their finale Engame is third. However, if you consider Nemesis their finale then Endgame is second.

And it was the C/7 crap that ruined it. I can get through the entire episode but those parts.

 

[DonIago]

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I could forgive the C/7 nonsense...or at least successfully repress it...if we'd actually gotten some resolution to the Voyager storyline instead of the episode ending right before the resolution.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

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It should have been a three-parter. That's all there is to it.

 

[AuntKate]

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It should have been a three-parter. That's all there is to it.

At least three parts, but, even better, the whole last season. Failing that, they should have "done the right thing" at the end and taken the route back to the DQ, only closer. And, in every case, delete the C/7.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

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It should have been a three-parter. That's all there is to it.

At least three parts, but, even better, the whole last season. Failing that, they should have "done the right thing" at the end and taken the route back to the DQ, only closer. And, in every case, delete the C/7.

I dare not entertain the notion of the entire seventh season being devoted to it, because I just can't fathom Voyager's production staff ever even jokingly discussing that route.

What my wildest dreams have explored is the idea that they took a page from Deep Space Nine's book and gave themselves a full ten hours to begin the last leg, their own 'Final Chapter'.

Getting rid of Seven/Chakotay would have been a wise start, though. That alone would make "Endgame" better. Behind-the-scenes chest-thumping has never amounted to anything in anything I've watched.

 

[F. King Daniel]

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Sooner or later, every thread in the Voyager forum ends up about "Endgame".

 

[exodus]

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I dont know how anyone can put Endgame in the same category as TATV. TATV is a terrible finale that betrays everything about ENT. Apart from C/7, Endgame is a glorious tribute to the joys of VOY.

Well I consider myself a Voyager fan but "Endgame" has to be the worst finale ever...

Disappointing, maybe but worst ever?
"St Elsewhere's" ending makes the whole entire series null and void.

"The X-Files" did this nik-nack-paddy-whack of an ending didn't solve anything and like "Moonlighting", proved that leaving sexual tension between characters is often a benefit.

Rosanne, the entire last season never happened and in the finale revealed it was all just a story she had written.

Voyager's ending still stayed true to itself and within it's own universe. It didn't pull the rug out from under it's fans. For that alone, far from the worst ending ever.

 

[froot]

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Sooner or later, every thread in the Voyager forum ends up about "Endgame".

INCORRECT!

Every thread ends up being about:

TUVIX

This one just hasn't gone on long enough yet.

The Endgame thing was totally my fault though, sorry. Me and my big virtual mouth.

 

[froot]

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Rosanne, the entire last season never happened and in the finale revealed it was all just a story she had written.

Oh my goodness, that always threw me for a loop. Wasn't a whole season of Dallas a dream as well? And I agree that the UST should have stayed there for our two heroes in X-Files.

 

[kimc]

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"The X-Files" didn't this nik-nack-paddy-whack of an ending didn't solve anything and like "Moonlighting", proved that leaving sexual tension between characters is often a benefit.

Haven't seen the others but I was obviously almost successful in erasing the "X-Files" finale from my memory before you had to bring it up again...

 

[Joel_Kirk]

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I can't imagine a way to make "Worst. Episode. Ever!" more neutral, myself.

(ducks)

Well, you can say:

'Worst. Episode. Ever!' according to some individuals...

 

[ALF]

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Some opinions make the wiki (Transformers is hilarious!) but yeah, opinions in a mostly negative way won't stand the test of time well.

 

[exodus]

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"The X-Files" didn't this nik-nack-paddy-whack of an ending didn't solve anything and like "Moonlighting", proved that leaving sexual tension between characters is often a benefit.

Haven't seen the others but I was obviously almost successful in erasing the "X-Files" finale from my memory before you had to bring it up again...

I forgot it too until you brought up that you thought "Endgame" was the worst.

 

[exodus]

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Rosanne, the entire last season never happened and in the finale revealed it was all just a story she had written.

Oh my goodness, that always threw me for a loop. Wasn't a whole season of Dallas a dream as well? And I agree that the UST should have stayed there for our two heroes in X-Files.

Yes, Bobby Ewing was dead but Duffy changed his mind and wanted back in the show, so they made the entire season a dream Victoria Princess' character was having. It's become one of the biggest jokes in TV history.

 

[TheGodBen]

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On the subject of Memory Alpha bias, here's 2 of the "Did You Know"s that's on the front page today:

...that Rick Berman wanted the Dominion War to be concluded in three to four episodes, but that Ira Steven Behr and Ronald D. Moore knew that they could never conclude the war that quickly?

...Rick Berman and Brannon Braga never created a back story for Future Guy?

It sort of seems biased against Berman.

 

[DonIago]

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As someone who often isn't especially concerned with the behind-the-scenes info, are either of those tidbits incorrect? If not, it's not exactly bias.