Surak's Katra...
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According to ENTERPRISE, T'Pau ended up carrying Surak's Katra.
Since STXI takes place several years before the point where "Amok Time" should have happened, we have to assume T'Pau was alive and well at the time Vulcan was destroyed.
And there was an older Vulcan woman among those who were beamed up with Spock.
I don't know if the credits name her, but she could well have been T'Pau. Also, if she wasn't, T'Pau may have escaped by some other means.
McCoy or Kirk called her "All of Vulcan wrapped up in one package". I'd have to assume such a person would be among the first to be evacuated if she wasn't at the Katric Ark.
Since STXI takes place several years before the point where "Amok Time" should have happened, we have to assume T'Pau was alive and well at the time Vulcan was destroyed.
And there was an older Vulcan woman among those who were beamed up with Spock.
I don't know if the credits name her, but she could well have been T'Pau. Also, if she wasn't, T'Pau may have escaped by some other means.
McCoy or Kirk called her "All of Vulcan wrapped up in one package". I'd have to assume such a person would be among the first to be evacuated if she wasn't at the Katric Ark.
I really don't feel like looking this up and double checking but I'm pretty sure that wasn't what happened. It was in Archer then the Vulcan priest that presided over T'Pol's wedding removed it and placed it in himself. I assume it was then returned to a katric ark where one of the elders in XI melded with the ark and now carries it.
Just as an aside, in the novelization, the elders literally carry out the "ark" and are beamed on board the Enterprise with it.
I'm assuming it's like the ark of the covenant that the Israelites carried around during their wanderings and that they ultimately set to rest in the temple in Jerusalem. (That's reaching back to Sunday school.)
I'm assuming it's like the ark of the covenant that the Israelites carried around during their wanderings and that they ultimately set to rest in the temple in Jerusalem. (That's reaching back to Sunday school.)
If I remember correctly, I don't think we saw any of the elders that escaped with Spock before the planet was destroyed carrying anything. So I just assumed that by the time Spock entered the chamber they had emptied as many of the arks as they could salvage.
LOL, you haters are getting desparate. You're taking something that was used as a plot device to ressurect Spock, and then later turned into something completely different in Enterprise, and that's supposed to be "cannon".
Tell me is is "cannon" for a vulcan mind meld to be the equivalent to the AIDS virus?
Tell me is is "cannon" for a vulcan mind meld to be the equivalent to the AIDS virus?
Everything ENT did with regards to the "katra" was consistent with what was in the TOS films.
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Who is hating? Sounds to me like the discussion is very civil.
For the record, I'm a huge fan of the movie.
J.
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Aside from your mentioning it earlier, what does that have to do with anything in this thread?
J.
They slapped into the brain of a fish they pulled out of the coy pond out back. In then spent the next century passing from various aquatic fauna until it finally reached the brain of one Livingston.
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It works for me. It works for the people in this thread, proponents and detractors alike, no one here has mentioned AIDS in any capacity other than yourself. Keep in mind that everything we see on television is a plot device. It's a part of the plot, that's how it works. We're just having a conversation on the possible placement of Surak's Katra on a science fiction show. No one here is surprised by the fact that none of this is real.
J.
If there's one thing I hate more than the word "canon," it's when people spell it "cannon."
And seriously, what does AIDS have to do with anything? I don't even understand the question.
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
^ What they said.
No, T'Pau tried to take Surak's katra from Archer, it Surak rejected her. After Archer opened the Orb of Canon (Kir'shara in the Vulcan language) and corrected the way Enterprise depicted Vulcans, the Vulcan Priest played by Jack Donner (Subcommander Tal from TOS The Enterprise Incident) ended up carrying Surak's katra.
I miss the days when Star Trek had this level of depth and complexity and was written and produced by people of integrity and conviction.
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