Supernatural: Season One
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You'll enjoy the the last triology of eps in season one.
Almost done with the finale. Didn't really care for the vampire one, but I'm liking the last two a lot. I'm thinking about buying the next couple of seasons on Blu-Ray.
UGGGGHHHHHHH what a cliffhanger!
Indeed. 
It's silly really, and maybe I should put this behind spoiler code...but something from Swan Song made me start thinking back on all things Supernatural and I came to a conclusion. Maybe this fits in with a discussion of the first season, many it doesn't.
Funny how Sam was made to look like the spoiled brat for most of the first season too what with Dean's 'this life's too good for you?' attitude, especially in the pilot. Sam never really had a choice, did he? Dean never did either, really, but at least like most of the hunters who became one as adults Dean had a good reason for being a hunter, avenging his Mom. Sam didn't have a real drive behind hunting until the YED interfered fully with his life by killing Jess.
So, again, I miss my gentle, kind-hearted, slightly geeky first season Sammy and it doesn't look much more promising next season.
Sorry again for yet another of my rants...but it's something I've been thinking about and I guess it fits in a little bit with a discussion of the first season of the show and of the show in general.
I miss first and even second season Sam. It was Chuck's little comment about how Sam doesn't mind hustling any more that got me thinking. Sure, people change as they get older, but it's almost like Sam's a completely different person now. I guess it's good in a way that he does see things from both his father's and brother's perspective now unlike when he was younger.
You also can't go through the things they've experienced without changing...but it seems like while Dean's become more...sane? Mellow? Reasonable? For their experiences...Sam's almost lost completely the person he was, and it makes me sad.
That also got me thinking as well, basically about the whole premise of the show itself and what we've learned of their upbringing over the years, but especially during the first season.
What John Winchester did raising his sons...was just insane. Sure, teach 'em how to defend themselves and use guns and other weapons and hand to hand even exorcisms and all that jazz, if you want them to stay safe. But to drag them, at very young ages, into dangerous situations and expect them to continue to stay safe despite putting them in those situations? Ridiculous. To put yourself in those dangerous situations when you have two children to raise ALONE also ridiculous. The whole 'train them to keep them safe' mantra rings hollow when you throw them into dangerous situations anyway.
I would imagine something more like the Harvelles or even the Campbells is at least a little more...normal, they still have a house, kids go to the same schools, live in the same town, aren't necessarily active participants in the hunt but know of it. Even Bobby has a house he lives at most of the time. Seems like MOST hunters have some kind of base house they live in.
I can see why an adult would choose to be a hunter, most of the hunters we hear about on the show have perfectly good reasons. But to drag two young boys into this whole 'off the grid' lifestyle seems...wrong. From what we've seen, children who are raised as hunters sure seem to have a shorter life expectancy than those who become them later in life as well.
It's also like a double standard almost...John had a perfectly normal upbringing yet he deprives his sons of even some of the most basic things growing up? Then resents his son for wanting what he himself had growing up?
Sam was right to call him on it and it really...bugs me that the writers changed that about Sam especially this last season or so. Sam was perfectly reasonable in his...dislike of the way their father raised them (and I can see it now that Sam likely got short end of the stick...a lot, being compared to an older brother who was likely taller, faster, stronger most of their childhood). That his father kicked him out of the family for getting into an ivy-league school with a full ride? Even MORE ludicrous. Sam should still be holding a grudge for that. Even John himself thought it was the wrong way to raise his kids when they talked with the younger version of him.
You also can't go through the things they've experienced without changing...but it seems like while Dean's become more...sane? Mellow? Reasonable? For their experiences...Sam's almost lost completely the person he was, and it makes me sad.
That also got me thinking as well, basically about the whole premise of the show itself and what we've learned of their upbringing over the years, but especially during the first season.
What John Winchester did raising his sons...was just insane. Sure, teach 'em how to defend themselves and use guns and other weapons and hand to hand even exorcisms and all that jazz, if you want them to stay safe. But to drag them, at very young ages, into dangerous situations and expect them to continue to stay safe despite putting them in those situations? Ridiculous. To put yourself in those dangerous situations when you have two children to raise ALONE also ridiculous. The whole 'train them to keep them safe' mantra rings hollow when you throw them into dangerous situations anyway.
I would imagine something more like the Harvelles or even the Campbells is at least a little more...normal, they still have a house, kids go to the same schools, live in the same town, aren't necessarily active participants in the hunt but know of it. Even Bobby has a house he lives at most of the time. Seems like MOST hunters have some kind of base house they live in.
I can see why an adult would choose to be a hunter, most of the hunters we hear about on the show have perfectly good reasons. But to drag two young boys into this whole 'off the grid' lifestyle seems...wrong. From what we've seen, children who are raised as hunters sure seem to have a shorter life expectancy than those who become them later in life as well.
It's also like a double standard almost...John had a perfectly normal upbringing yet he deprives his sons of even some of the most basic things growing up? Then resents his son for wanting what he himself had growing up?
Sam was right to call him on it and it really...bugs me that the writers changed that about Sam especially this last season or so. Sam was perfectly reasonable in his...dislike of the way their father raised them (and I can see it now that Sam likely got short end of the stick...a lot, being compared to an older brother who was likely taller, faster, stronger most of their childhood). That his father kicked him out of the family for getting into an ivy-league school with a full ride? Even MORE ludicrous. Sam should still be holding a grudge for that. Even John himself thought it was the wrong way to raise his kids when they talked with the younger version of him.
Funny how Sam was made to look like the spoiled brat for most of the first season too what with Dean's 'this life's too good for you?' attitude, especially in the pilot. Sam never really had a choice, did he? Dean never did either, really, but at least like most of the hunters who became one as adults Dean had a good reason for being a hunter, avenging his Mom. Sam didn't have a real drive behind hunting until the YED interfered fully with his life by killing Jess.
So, again, I miss my gentle, kind-hearted, slightly geeky first season Sammy and it doesn't look much more promising next season.
Sorry again for yet another of my rants...but it's something I've been thinking about and I guess it fits in a little bit with a discussion of the first season of the show and of the show in general.
Well as much as John sucks, the writers have hinted that John was far more aware of what actually happened then he ever let the kids know (Certainly he knows a great more about it then the boys do at the end of season 1 (how much more so is really the only question). They have a had a few comic lines written by one of the producer who actually really deals with how much John actually knew are thought was possible (including at a very early stage that A high powered demon had a strong connection to Sam) thus showing a fairly strong reason for constantly moving around. Now it doesn't explain them moving around all the time from say 6months to 4 or 5 for Sam (but we also don't know if they did move around that much at that stage). As for Sam embracing the hunter's life season 2 really nailed it, he sees that he has a malefic destiny and the only way he sees of making that not happen s to try and devote his life to saving others. It's at that point in the show that Sam is the driven hunter and Dean is the one wanting out.
Hopefully that isn't very specific for those who haven't got past season one.
Hopefully that isn't very specific for those who haven't got past season one.
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