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Supernatural 6x14 "Mannequin3: The Reckoning"spoiler/discussion
- Thread starter Dorian Thompson
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No, no, no....you're wrong. This is heartbreaking. Ben is right. What is sooo wrong with being you, Dean? The child has it right.
Gods, I'll never go into a mall again.
You'll get that reference when you see the eppy, mswood.
Gods, I'll never go into a mall again.
You'll get that reference when you see the eppy, mswood.
No, no, no....you're wrong. This is heartbreaking. Ben is right. What is sooo wrong with being you, Dean? The child has it right.
Gods, I'll never go into a mall again.
I think perhaps the child saw the "mask: that Dean is constantly showing people instead of what life he really has had.
No, it really was a lovely scene--well put together. My heart really broke for Dean. When Ben told him he was running out on his family--ouch. 
Dorian Thompson: Yeah, the moment he said, I thought "Like Father, like son."
Dean really needs to have a bigger opinion of himself or he'll be forever damned to a life of loneliness if he keeps on thinking he's damaged and a bringer of all things bad.
I wished Sam's glimpse into his time in Hell had more of a lasting side-effect, something that would give us a glimpse of what his personality going to be if he regains all memories of Hell.
And I kind of got frustrated when Dean said to Sam, "what's past is past" when talking about the things Sam has done while soulless. I just found that damn ironic. It's because of the brothers and their family's tendency to hold onto the past that led to the way their lives are now. Just because something happened in the past, doesn't mean it just stays there.
Dean really needs to have a bigger opinion of himself or he'll be forever damned to a life of loneliness if he keeps on thinking he's damaged and a bringer of all things bad.
I wished Sam's glimpse into his time in Hell had more of a lasting side-effect, something that would give us a glimpse of what his personality going to be if he regains all memories of Hell.
And I kind of got frustrated when Dean said to Sam, "what's past is past" when talking about the things Sam has done while soulless. I just found that damn ironic. It's because of the brothers and their family's tendency to hold onto the past that led to the way their lives are now. Just because something happened in the past, doesn't mean it just stays there.
Now see that I can absolutely see, but at best its a substitute family, at least as portrayed by the show. When she first appears he is looking to have sex thats all, compare that to when we meet Cassie, its clear that Dean had an emotional history (as opposed to she's bendy). Dean goes to hell (no nothing about Sam make sure to check on them), he comes back finds Sam, shows love for Bobby, Car and nothing about a girl.... and all during this time he has had hookups. Then when they need to ground him they through this "Family" on him. It's really one of the few times the writers don't "earn" the emotional setup that they use on the show (one of the rare times), and its a huge story cheat.No, it really was a lovely scene--well put together. My heart really broke for Dean. When Ben told him he was running out on his family--ouch.
This wasn't very good at all. An even more pointless supernatural plot than usual and more Lisa/Dean angst--just don't care enough about those two.
A D+
A D+
You articulated my thoughts exactly. Thank you.
And good grief.....when he was sweet talking that love doll, mannequin, whatever in his bed......I spit out my tea on my coffee table.
That poor actor had to do that scene with a straight face.
Wow, D+, eh? Feeling generous are we, Mr. Startrekwatcher?
I liked very little of this episode. So lets start with the positive. I liked that they gave closure to the Ben & Lisa story and that Ben and Lisa (since we never see their point of view, I have no problem with them having a bond with Dean) reactions and motivations rang really true. Ben's original point that what's so bad about Dean's life is that it absolutely sucks. And that is something a kid is really going to have a hard time understanding (hell very few adults would understand the toll of Dean's life), but his second part is absolutely true.
I thought Jensen did well with all the scenes concerning this aspect of the story.
I liked them addressing Sam's flashback fugue state memory of Hell, and I like Dean's reaction to it as well.
The "MOTW" though, was for the most part awful. Like Hook Man awful. I even thought the guest cast in those scenes were early first season bad. There were really only two aspects of that part of the episode I liked, the first was the montage scenes of Sam investigating, I thought Jared did really good work here (or maybe in comparison to the utterly crap acting that was around him he seemed really strong, take your pick.
The 2nd was the organ being the grounding point, I liked that, though I thought they too an exceptionally easy way out of the episode.
And for the most part this episode was shot incredibly poorly. THe exception was the crane shot at Bobby's, and an exterior shot of the Impala outside an apartment complex. The rest really felt paint by numbers.
So the part I was least likely to enjoy was easily the better parts of this episode. They parts about Sam's Hell, and Dean's past with Lisa and Ben were B+ material in my Book, the Motw, a D-.
I thought Jensen did well with all the scenes concerning this aspect of the story.
I liked them addressing Sam's flashback fugue state memory of Hell, and I like Dean's reaction to it as well.
The "MOTW" though, was for the most part awful. Like Hook Man awful. I even thought the guest cast in those scenes were early first season bad. There were really only two aspects of that part of the episode I liked, the first was the montage scenes of Sam investigating, I thought Jared did really good work here (or maybe in comparison to the utterly crap acting that was around him he seemed really strong, take your pick.
The 2nd was the organ being the grounding point, I liked that, though I thought they too an exceptionally easy way out of the episode.
And for the most part this episode was shot incredibly poorly. THe exception was the crane shot at Bobby's, and an exterior shot of the Impala outside an apartment complex. The rest really felt paint by numbers.
So the part I was least likely to enjoy was easily the better parts of this episode. They parts about Sam's Hell, and Dean's past with Lisa and Ben were B+ material in my Book, the Motw, a D-.
Supernatural beat a first run episode of Smallville for the first time last night according to Marc Berman at pifeedback.com. SPN averaged 2.25 million viewers for the hour and SV was something like 2.23 million. Also, demographically, SPN is only behind the Vampire Diaries this week on the network. Amazing.
Oh Lord, I just got banned from TWOP again. I cannot even express a completely neutral/positive opinion over there. I wasn't fighting with anyone. It starts the crazies fighting, and so TWOP Tennison banned me. He never bans the crazies who act as if one brother getting more attention is life or death. 
Everybody who is positive about the show gets banned. I never, ever have a problem in any other TWOP forum expressing opinions. Only in the SPN forum. God--I've run out of e-mail addresses to register with.
Everybody who is positive about the show gets banned. I never, ever have a problem in any other TWOP forum expressing opinions. Only in the SPN forum. God--I've run out of e-mail addresses to register with.They do, they do..... I was banned for "lecturing." Basically, telling people they shouldn't fight over something (the ever present Dean vs. Sam wars and was soulless Sammy a good storyline). Tennison said I mentioned it "in too many threads" (2). Meanwhile so many others fight over it constantly and they're still there. They need a lecture.
I was banned for "lecturing." Basically, telling people they shouldn't fight over something (the ever present Dean vs. Sam wars and was soulless Sammy a good storyline). Tennison said I mentioned it "in too many threads" (2). Meanwhile so many others fight over it constantly and they're still there. They need a lecture.
