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Superman Vs The Eite DTV Casting News

Oh, I can see what you're saying there, and I do agree with you to a certain degree. But at the same time, the approach has worked so far, so I don't really have a problem with it in this case.

Honestly, I completely forgot that JL:COTE even existed until you guys brought it up just now.
 
i love it! Superman is a oid school superhero! the Eite is new school! i can see both sides! But in the end i take goody good Supermen any day!:)
 
We don't have a release date yet as I mentioned in the original post, but we can probably presume this to be their fall release or even their early 2013 release, since IIRC they're planning on doing the two part Dark Knight Returns adaptation this year...assuming they want to tie in the release with "The Dark Knight Rises". I don't think we've had any news on that since the original announcement from last summer.
 
I can understand why they couldn't feasibly call the movie "What's so Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" But Superman vs. the Elite is a pretty lame alternative. I wish they'd come up with something more interesting.
 
Superman Vs The Elite is pretty much what the issue was though...it was Clark versus this Authority like team. I'm not sure what other title they could have come up with. Superman Vs Manchester Black? LOL. There are limited titles here Christopher. If that is the art work for the cover I like it.
 
Anyone think it's getting a bit silly to see the characters COMPLETELY redesigned and recast for every one of these movies? I can understand if there's a particular artist they're mimicking, but for most it seems like they could just pick one good design and voice and stick with it.

I mean, it's pretty obvious that these are all standalone stories. No reason to hammer us over the head with it every time.

I have to agree. I enjoy the DTVs a lot, and am very happy to see that the earlier reports that they were ending (this back around 2009) turned out to be bogus. Since Warners can't seem to get its act in gear with regards to giving us live-action films (at least in terms of quantity - count the number of DC films compared to Marvel), I'll take the animation.

But it is starting to get a bit old that every single film, it seems, is a reboot. Of course you have to look at the source material - as long as they keep adapting graphic novels that are, themselves, either reboots, reimaginings or, like New Frontier, basically "Elseworlds" you're going to see that.

The results are films that are on their own excellent to view but, with a few exceptions, rather useless in terms of establishing a continuity. I'm sure there are a few folks who'd like to see a DTV made that continued the continuity established in Justice League Unlimited, for example. And while it's interesting to hear different voices, I'd like to see some continuity there (what's wrong with Christina Hendricks playing Lois again, for example? Or Harmon as Superman?).

Still, I enjoy them. Though I hope they start doing more non-Batman/Superman stories again. Starting with Wonder Woman and working on down there are plenty of good characters and storylines that deserve DTV treatment (and I don't mean as Showcase shorts, either). I'd also like to see them start doing some of the classic graphic novels. The Killing Joke, Dark Knight Returns, Gotham By Gaslight, Kingdom Come, even Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Alex
 
Wow. People are still not understanding the mind set that Timm and company have set out for these DTV's? Bruce Timm stated a few years ago now that the reason these are different and exploring different story lines (there are no reboots) is they have different criteria they are looking for in each story. Different animation, different voice casts, etc. I've said this many times in many different threads. Also the purpose is not to establish a new continuity (that is what Young Justice is for) these are all supposed to be just adaptations of various stories. The only two DTV's that share the same continuity are "Superman/Batman: Public Enemies" and its sequel "Superman/Batman: Apocalypse" which adapted the second arc in that ongoing which was introduced Jeph Loeb and Michael Turner's version of Supergirl.
 
I have to agree. I enjoy the DTVs a lot, and am very happy to see that the earlier reports that they were ending (this back around 2009) turned out to be bogus.

Well, there were never actual reports to that effect, just the usual online misunderstandings and telephone-game distortions of what the reports actually said. To wit, the reports said that WB was giving up on feature-length DCU videos other than those focused on Superman and Batman (including Justice League stories) -- so, for instance, the in-development movie of Teen Titans: The Judas Contract was abandoned and we didn't get a Wonder Woman sequel. (The exception was Green Lantern: Emerald Knights, but of course that was made as cross-promotion with the feature film.)


The results are films that are on their own excellent to view but, with a few exceptions, rather useless in terms of establishing a continuity.

Continuity has never been a mandatory thing in storytelling. There's no continuity unifying Shakespeare's plays or Arthur C. Clarke's novels (even the various 2001 sequels are not strictly in continuity with one another) or the stories in any given anthology. Complaining that a film series intended to be anthology-like in nature is lacking in continuity is like complaining that a cooking show is lacking in car chase scenes. (Although I wouldn't be surprised if Good Eats has had a car chase or two.) There's value in stories that form a larger continuity, but there's also value in stories that are complete within themselves and have their own distinct voices.


I'm sure there are a few folks who'd like to see a DTV made that continued the continuity established in Justice League Unlimited, for example.

I can understand why the producers and studio want this series to have a distinct identity from that, though. And I can understand the creators wanting to try new things rather than perpetually revisiting their work from over a decade ago.

That said, I do wish Crisis on Two Earths had been a full-on DCAU movie as it was originally written to be -- or else that it had been more heavily rewritten to remove the story elements left over from its original role as a transitional piece between JL and JLU. It came off as kind of halfway in between, and that didn't work as well.


And while it's interesting to hear different voices, I'd like to see some continuity there (what's wrong with Christina Hendricks playing Lois again, for example? Or Harmon as Superman?).

Wow, those are among the last examples I would've picked of actors I'd like to hear again in those roles. Maybe that's the answer to the question -- not everyone's going to agree which actors work well.

But then, they have brought back Daly, Conroy, and other DCAU veterans multiple times now, so there is some continuity.


Still, I enjoy them. Though I hope they start doing more non-Batman/Superman stories again. Starting with Wonder Woman and working on down there are plenty of good characters and storylines that deserve DTV treatment (and I don't mean as Showcase shorts, either).

The producers have expressed interest in doing such projects, such as The Sinestro Corps War and Flash, Aquaman, or Green Arrow films. But the question is whether they'd be profitable enough to do. There's an audience for Superman and Batman movies, and by extension JL movies, but other characters are less mainstream and less likely to sell enough copies to turn a profit for the studio. If we got, say, a live-action Wonder Woman or Flash feature film that scored big at the box office, we'd see feature-length DVD movies about those characters; but until then, it's a riskier proposition.



I'd also like to see them start doing some of the classic graphic novels. The Killing Joke, Dark Knight Returns, Gotham By Gaslight, Kingdom Come, even Crisis on Infinite Earths.

There is a 2-part TDKR adaptation in the works. No details announced yet, but I'm hoping it'll be from the same cast and team that adapted Year One.

As for the rest, we've gotten things like All-Star Superman and Year One, so those are possibilities. I'd prefer shorter things like TKJ or GbG; the others are pretty long and epic and would need to be severely trimmed down. And Crisis is, frankly, a mess. I read it once and couldn't follow it very well (although the library copy I got was missing a few pages). It just had too many characters and story threads, including a lot of stuff that it seemed I would've needed to read the tie-in comics to understand clearly, and it was too unfocused. A film adaptation, especially one limited to 70 minutes, would have to reimagine the story considerably and tighten it up to concentrate on a more unified core cast.
 
I thought Harmon sounded too old in the role. Maybe it's just me.

I'm all for creativity but when they use the 'original' DCAU voices it feels more comfortable to me, I guess. Daly and Newbern sound enough alike to me as Superman (though of course there are differences) that I don't notice that change too much.
 
Some more information has been revealed: Robin Atkin Downes is voicing Manchester Black. Joe Kelly wrote the script, adapting his own comic book story, and the movie was directed by Michael Chang. Chang has previously directed episodes of Teen Titans, Batman: The Brave and the Bold and Young Justice and he was one of the three directors of Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo. Superman vs. The Elite marks his first time as a director in the DC Universe line.
 
Robin Atkin Downes is a very good voice actor. I'm sure he'll do a good job voicing Black.
 
I think this has the advantage of being based on a single issue. Which means it can be fleshed out some. Opposed to many of these films which are based on multiple issue storyarcs. Which have to be greatly condensed. Also the ideas are mostly unique. Many of the previous films have covered concepts similar to episodes of DCAU shows.
 
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Hopefully the fact that Joe Kelly has adapted his own work, this means the actual story won't be altered too much and still remain intact, unlike "Justice League: Doom" seems to be.
 
I think this has the advantage of being based on a single issue. Which also it to be expanded some. Opposed to many of see films which are based on multiple issue storyarcs.

Yeah -- I was surprised when I realized that Batman: Year One barely cut anything (except narration which it either rephrased or replaced with onscreen depictions) and actually added material which improved on the original (such as giving Gordon's wife more of a presence and personality). Which could be done because it was based on a 4-issue story instead of a 12-issue one or whatever.
 
That's good to hear. I have not seen Batman: Year One yet. I have wanted to just have not gotten around to it.
 
I just got the BY1 DVD from Netflix and watched it yesterday. This was the first DCU movie based on a story I'm familiar with, and I loved it.
 
Superman Vs. The Elite will be released on the 12th June. Here are the Blu-ray special features:

-Sneak Peak at Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Part 1, the next DC Universe Animated Original Movie

- Featurette – “The Elite Unbound: No Rules, No Mercy” – A short documentary focused upon The Elite, and their arc of character throughout the comics. Even the anti-heroes have their own struggles … and triumphs. It’s all highlighted in this compelling film that begins with the inspiration of The Authority, and how The Elite became the answer to that book, and a fresh approach for DC Comics in the post 9/11 world. It was an unexpected twist to the pages of Action Comics, and this documentary summarizes the true potency of these Elite.

- Featurette – “Superman and the Moral Debate” – There’s a prevailing thought about ending terrorism and ridding our Earth of the maladjusted once and for all – by fighting fire with fire! This is the story of The Elite, a band of fringe Superheroes who were compelled to eradicate the Earth of its scum, its tyranny and evil once and for all, not with words, but with raw unadulterated action, designed to kill their opponents. This is their controversial story.

- Creative team audio commentary

- Two bonus episodes from Superman: The Animated Series handpicked by producer Alan Burnett: Brave New Metropolis and Warrior Queen.

-Digital Comic -- Action Comics #775 -"What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way?"

-All-Star Superman revisited: sneak peak

-Batman/Superman: Public Enemies revisited: sneak peak

-Photo Gallery - The upcoming The Dark Knight Rises Theatrical Release
 
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