Superman: The Reboot --- Its official

[Supervisor 194]

Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial

I think Routh's fate depends on just how much of a 'reintroduction' WB wants to do. Routh was generally liked as Superman, and could probably headline a new direction, but it was not clear from all the 'positioning' jargon what exactly WB wants to accomplish.

Personally, I think a kickass trailer featuring Routh as Superman battling (insert super-powered villain) in space, under the sea, and in the concrete canyons of Metropolis would be enough to get the average movie goer excited to see the film, reboot or not.

 

[Samurai8472]

Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial

Its too bad Routh didn't rise to stardom like some hoped. Well I guess we Iowans will just worship Shawn Johnson

 

[Cicero]

Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial

I think Routh's fate depends on just how much of a 'reintroduction' WB wants to do. Routh was generally liked as Superman, and could probably headline a new direction, but it was not clear from all the 'positioning' jargon what exactly WB wants to accomplish

Isn't his popularity confined mostly to fans of the Reeve film series? I remember there being a number of unkind comments regarding him at time.

 

[Broccoli]

Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial

Its too bad Routh didn't rise to stardom like some hoped. Well I guess we Iowans will just worship Shawn Johnson

OT: I'm convinced that girl is a Ferengi.

 

[Supervisor 194]

Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial

Isn't his popularity confined mostly to fans of the Reeve film series? I remember there being a number of unkind comments regarding him at time.

Sure, there have been a lot of unkind comments on various message boards (what else is new?) but the general reaction to him from legitimate critics and most mainstream audiences was positive enough.

 

[Jetfire]

I hope it is a good re-boot, something worthy of Superman, I doubt it though.






JF

 

[captcalhoun]

Mark Millar must be rubbing his hands with glee...

 

[Guy Gardener]

I wonder if it should have the Legion of Superheroes in it? That's a better frame work to draft from than Doomsday... But seriosuly there isn't any truly stand out great superman story that I can think of that would make a decent movie? Superman is a never ending plot with the stories mushing into one another that the Death of Superman is the only real point which is singled out.

 

[Supervisor 194]

I doubt they'll go the Legion route--but it's a good idea.

If they want to really establish this as something different than what came before, the Legion--with its future setting, multiple heroes, etc--would certainly do the trick.

I think Geoff Johns recent Action Comics Legion arc would make a great movie--not only does it very neatly summarize the Legion into something that would be very easy for any audience to understand, but it also gives you a way to use 'reintroduce' Routh without even having to address any of Superman's usual supporting cast. Add in that it's a somewhat dark story (which showcases the 'light' of Superman to fantastic effect) and you might have something that would fit the bill for WB's mandate.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That was all prelude to Legion of Three Worlds, which came out last week.

"The Legion taught Superman his principles."

 

[Jax]

SR was not that bad (I enjoyed it not being a big superman fan). A huge mistake in my eyes that will confuse the average Joe outside the franchise that they will need to make $$$.

Superman may not be quite the man of steel WB thought.

 

[JoeZhang]

I think you have to get rid of routh, simply because your adverting needs to indicate that it's "all-new", that message is confused by using the same actor who was in the film that 'failed'.

 

[Skywalker]

Yeah, I liked Routh, and think he could have been a great Superman if he were allowed more freedom instead of justing being told to mimic Christopher Reeve. But the new movie will have to make a clean break from past efforts.

As for villains, I'm hoping for Brainiac (particularly if they use the Timm version) or Darkseid. Darkseid might be best used after the new Supes has been established. I'd also love to see a new take on Zod.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Routh had 5 lines.

Poor bastard was put in a corner.

 

[THE CHEBB]

Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial

Oh well... I was not in favor of a reboot.
I believe we could get a better movie after Returns, with our hero established and Luthor and his silly land schemes out of the way.

And generally speaking, I'm worried about their whole "Make everything dark" attitude.I don't see it working anywhere besides Batman.

Anyway, I hope Routh will return as Superman even though it's a reboot.
I hope and pray they devote as little time as possible to giving us an origin story.We know it and have been beaten over the head with it for decades.

I also hope Luthor will not be the main villain and in fact wouldn't mind if he made no appearance at all, though I consider it unlikely.

And finally give Superman a worthy powerful opponent that will push him to his limits of strength and intelligence and show us why he has that Super in front of the Man.Someone like Brainiac for example.

Amen....

 

[The Old Mixer]

There should be a moratorium on Lex Luthor, he should not show up in another Superman movie for the next 25 years minimum.

And here I thought you wanted the "definitive" Superman film, even if that means rehashing his origin for the eight-millionth time. The definitive Superman film would include Luthor, regardless of what's happened before.

I'm sure a lot of us wouldn't mind seeing Luthor again if he were done right. They wasted Kevin Spacey as the wrong version of the character.

 

[The Old Mixer]

In the last decade their output of live action comic book films (including non-DC and non-superhero) has been Catwoman, Constantine, Batman Begins, V for Vendetta, Superman Returns, 300, and The Dark Knight, with Watchmen forthcoming.

Catwoman was of course terrible, one of the very worst comic book films ever, but their output since then has been an interesting group of films representing much more ambition in terms of creating bold, striking comic book films than Warners has shown since Tim Burton's Batman films. Opinions of course differ as to whether these films were realized in a creatively satisfying way, and that difference of opinion can be vehement, but at least Warners is aiming high with their comic book films. I'd rather they aim high and sometimes not quite hit the target than aim low and churn out films on the level of Fantastic Four and Ghost Rider.

The fact that they've been redoubling their efforts in the development of DC films by consulting with top DC writers and artists is a good sign, too.

Catwoman being first on that list doesn't help. And TDK and Watchmen don't count, since I specifically said "prior to TDK". That they stumbled onto a good revamp of the Batman franchise isn't in question. SR was clearly a failure, or this thread topic wouldn't exist. The rest are a smattering of eclectic non-superhero films.

What fandom was already talking about before this was the fact that they don't seem to know what to do with their stable of major super-heroes. The fact that a SR sequel or reboot wasn't even being spoken of was one sign of that. Then Iron Man did big box office, and suddenly WB was talking about churning out major super-hero films with their eyes on an eventual Justice League film. Now TDK does bigger box office, and they're talking about doing all of the films as dark as possible. This pattern doesn't inspire confidence. As somebody upthread said, "monkey see, monkey do". If the next big super-hero film was a CGI Mighty Mouse cartoon, they'd be on about turning all of their super-heroes into talking animals.

 

[T'Baio]

Yeah, I liked Routh, and think he could have been a great Superman if he were allowed more freedom instead of justing being told to mimic Christopher Reeve.

I think Routh did far more than that. His performance was definitely influenced by Reeve's, but he brought a lot more to the table than mere mimicry.

 

[DarKush]

Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial

What about a trilogy, like they're doing with the Nolan-Bat films?

Superman: The Last Son of Krypton: Focuses on Clark/Kal-El's Rise as Superboy, ala, Batman Begins. Lex Luthor is the primary villain as a mad scientist at first, then becoming a corperate villain. Sort of meshing Classic Lex with now. He's aressted at the end, and that's the last we see of him. So we think...

Superman: The Man of Steel - Clark is now Superman full time. The one we all know and love. He's enaged to Lois Lane, and is defending Metropolis from criminals. Braniac arrives to cause trouble, Superman needs help with the one and only Lex Luthor. He's only there to serve as a Hannible Lecter type exsposition, as he helps Supes defeat Braniac. In the end, Lex somehow manipulates Braniac to break him out of jail, and escapes. Ends with Superman flying off to capture them.

Superman: The Man of Tomorrow - Superman returns (no pun intended) with Lex, seemingly good friends again. In actuality, it's a ruse created by an alien known as Darksied, who captured the real Superman, and held him in another dimension, War World. Gaining the trust of Darkseid's son Kalebak, Superman escapes War World. He engaged in an epic battle with Darkseid and Braniac that spans the universe. Endng in a personal battle with Kalebak and Darkseid, making Kalebak the leader of War World. Braniac and Darkseid are banished to the Phantom Zone, while Lex hides behind his lawyers. Superman continues the fight for justice, as he returns to Earth. Lois and Clark are married at the end of the movie.

Sounds good. I don't see why Superman has to remain so earthbound on the big screen. Now with the ability to really create impressive FX and CGI, it would be cool to see Apokolips or War World.

 

[Galactus]

There should be a moratorium on Lex Luthor, he should not show up in another Superman movie for the next 25 years minimum.

And here I thought you wanted the "definitive" Superman film, even if that means rehashing his origin for the eight-millionth time. The definitive Superman film would include Luthor, regardless of what's happened before.

I'm sure a lot of us wouldn't mind seeing Luthor again if he were done right. They wasted Kevin Spacey as the wrong version of the character.

I want the definitive Superman movie, not the definitive Superman and Lex Luthor movie. I greatly dislike the concept of Lex Luthor past or present. How many Superman movies have there been in modern times and how many has Lex Luthor been in?

Like I said before time to move on. When I say I want a reboot, i mean I want a reboot. Total and complete. Superman has a lot more and dangerous enemies than Lex Luthor.