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News Superman & Lois Ordered to Series at The CW

Christopher said:
I seem to remember reading back in the day that Byrne's version codified the idea of Kryptonian cells storing energy from sunlight. I thought it followed that heat vision was a means of directing that stored energy through the eyes.
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It could have something to do with the solar cell idea but Byrne was adamant, at least initially, the Superman didn't shoot rays from his eyes. In the early issues of the reboot, heat vision was drawn as a flash in his eyes and then the image of something melting.
 
theenglish said:
It could have something to do with the solar cell idea but Byrne was adamant, at least initially, the Superman didn't shoot rays from his eyes. In the early issues of the reboot, heat vision was drawn as a flash in his eyes and then the image of something melting.
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Surely you've seen a laser pointer in use -- or a flashlight, for that matter. The actual "ray" should be invisible unless it's passing through smoke or mist. So that doesn't mean there's no ray, it just means it's being depicted correctly for a change.
 
I just hope they remember his Great Wall of China Vision
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Christopher said:
Surely you've seen a laser pointer in use -- or a flashlight, for that matter. The actual "ray" should be invisible unless it's passing through smoke or mist. So that doesn't mean there's no ray, it just means it's being depicted correctly for a change.
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That's is also a possibility. I can't seem to find references to the Bryne heat vision thing so I could be remembering incorrectly.
 
Mr. Adventure said:
I just hope they remember his Great Wall of China Vision
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I was surprised to discover there's actually precedent for that in the George Reeves TV series. In one episode, Clark apparently reassembles a torn-up note in a wastebasket by staring at it (though that could've just been symbolic of him reconstructing the note in his mind's eye), and in another, a villain knocks down a chimney in an attempt on Clark's life and Clark uses super-breath to blow all the bricks back into place (i.e. they reversed the footage of its collapse).
 
Maybe he's not reconstructing them but reversing time on a focused basis, maybe even subconsciously. He thinks he's blowing the bricks back into a chimney or rebuilding a wall but he's just rewinding them back to a previous state. ;)
 
Hot damn I hate Superman IV.

The "wall fixing vision" is especially egregious as I remain convinced that they just made it up to save money. (I know, hardly a hot take.) All it would take to make it slightly better is a red blur speeding across the wall as it goes back together.

The shots of Superman "fixing" it are clearly just three super-quick shots of him acknowledging the crowd. (Looks like all three shots are trimmed from the one shot, with the middle of the three being flopped to add variety.)
 
Have they used New York for any of the Arrowverse cities yet? Since LA is National City in Supergirl's establishing shots, NYC could be a good Metropolis for Superman & Lois.
 
Marc said:
nah - gotta save that for Batman.
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Arrowverse Gotham is Chicago. Literally -- not only is Batwoman partly filmed there, but the Earth Prime map in The Flash placed Gotham roughly where Chicago is. Metropolis is somewhere in the vicinity of New York City, Star City is roughly Portland, Oregon, and National City is somewhere between LA and San Francisco, IIRC. The map left off Central City, but Legends of Tomorrow recently established that it's in Missouri.
 
Christopher said:
Arrowverse Gotham is Chicago. Literally -- not only is Batwoman partly filmed there, but the Earth Prime map in The Flash placed Gotham roughly where Chicago is. Metropolis is somewhere in the vicinity of New York City, Star City is roughly Portland, Oregon, and National City is somewhere between LA and San Francisco, IIRC. The map left off Central City, but Legends of Tomorrow recently established that it's in Missouri.
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woosh.

I'm aware of Chicago et al being used in the various films and tv series but doesn't negate the fact that Gotham City has long been an allegory for New York (below a street I can't remember on the coldest night in November as one Batman writer put it).
 
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YLu said:
Again, even Dwayne McDuffie, who wrote and produced for the DCAU, said he always had to hobble Superman (and the Flash) because at actual full power it was impossible to write fights involving them.
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As I already mentioned, JLU addressed that. In fact, Superman the Animated Series also had Superman realize he had to hold back, unless the threat demanded his overwhelming power. Again, it takes competent writers to know the character and how to use him, and that has not been the case in any recent live action production with the exception of the DCEU films.
 
Marc said:
I'm aware of Chicago et al being used in the various films and tv series but doesn't negate the fact that Gotham City has long been an allegory for New York (below a street I can't remember on the coldest night in November as one Batman writer put it).
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Yes, of course, that goes without saying. It's literally right there in the name ("Gotham" being Washington Irving's nickname for New York City). But that's the comics. That's the past. We're talking specifically about the Arrowverse version in the present, which has been unambiguously associated with Chicago, unlike past versions.
 
Marc said:
woosh.

I'm aware of Chicago et al being used in the various films and tv series but doesn't negate the fact that Gotham City has long been an allegory for New York (below a street I can't remember on the coldest night in November as one Batman writer put it).
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The full quote includes Metropolis and is by Denny O'Neil "Batman's Gotham City is Manhattan below 14th Street at eleven minutes past midnight on the coldest night of November. Metropolis is Manhattan between 14th and 100 Streets on the brightest, sunniest July day of the year".
 
Nerys Myk said:
The full quote includes Metropolis and is by Denny O'Neil "Batman's Gotham City is Manhattan below 14th Street at eleven minutes past midnight on the coldest night of November. Metropolis is Manhattan between 14th and 100 Streets on the brightest, sunniest July day of the year".
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thanks.

the first part is his novel adaption (well the author's note at the end) of Knightfall though I don't think tne later part is there.

it might be but I can't be arsed looking in the shelf for my copy :)
 
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