Spoilers "Supergirl": the 6th and final season

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  1. The Realist

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    Well, at least he didn't get killed (as some were predicting -- I doubted it, if only because it seemed like too dark/tragic a turn for the tone of these episodes).

    I've seen it suggested the character should resurface in Kara's present before the end of the series, which I wouldn't mind at all.
     
  2. thribs

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    Well with a name like Kenny he would just come back anyway
     
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  3. Mr. Adventure

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    Kira.
     
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  4. Christopher

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    A pretty good conclusion. I'm still astonished by how perfect the casting was for the actresses' younger selves, all three of them.

    I agree that it'd be nice to see Kenny in the present. Peter Sudarso is actually 30, nearly twice as old as his high school-age character, and only a couple of years younger than Melissa Benoist, so they could just bring him back as the adult Kenny. Indeed, I wonder if that was why they cast an actor that age in the first place. (And it was only 3-4 years ago that he was playing another high schooler involved with superheroics in Power Rangers Ninja Steel. It'd be a nice change of pace to cast him as an actual adult.)

    Did young Kara actually remember all of this at the end? In the second iteration of the meteor shower, she said "It's just a flesh wound this time," suggesting she remembers the first iteration. So I wonder how much adult Kara will remember when she gets back. Also, there's a pretty big logic hole. She got back from the time jump an hour before the meteor shower, so where was her other self that was native to that time?

    Now I'm wondering how Cat decided to quit the Planet and change her name preference in the original timeline before Nia intervened. They didn't seem to be going for the time-loop model where the time travelers were part of the original history all along.
     
  5. Tuskin38

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    I'm guessing because Filming is slower because of Covid. They probably want to wait until they catch up.
     
  6. The Realist

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    Time travel “logic” is often elusive at best. In this case, it seemed to me that Kara replaced or merged with herself in the newly altered timeline, and indeed retains all her memories. Not only because of the “this time” line, but also because she breaks up with Kenny, when she seemed to be planning to stay in Midvale with him before the original meteor strike. (“I love you, and I love our Fortress. I’m so excited to start our new life here ....”) I think being confronted with the potentially disastrous consequences of continuing down the “supering” path she was on with Kenny made her rethink that decision.
     
  7. StCoop

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    So those were the two best episodes of the series in a long time, in large part thanks to dialing down the series angst quotient and upping the humour. They should move Jesse Rath and Nicole Maines over to 'Legends Of Tomorrow' or just go ahead and give them their own show.
     
  8. Dick Whitman

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    I think that would be great!
     
  9. Christopher

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    Or do a hybrid of both and call it Legion of Tomorrow. ;)
     
  10. The Realist

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    A Legion of Super-Heroes show would actually be awesome in concept, but it's hard to see how they could do it any kind of justice on a TV budget. Ideally, I'd love to see the Legion as a tentpole movie, with ungodly amounts of money thrown at it to immerse you in that future world and superpowered cast of thousands.
     
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    The new

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  12. Christopher

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    Hmm, Kelly Olsen is sporting a much more comics-authentic Guardian costume than her brother did. When James was going through that arc where he worried about the drawbacks of not showing his face to the public, I wondered why he didn't just drop the weird slit mask and adopt something closer to the Kirby original. At least we finally get that now.
     
  13. DigificWriter

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    Not really.

    Nothing about the group requires their membership to be massive.
     
  14. Nerys Myk

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    It's right there in the name.
     
  15. David cgc

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    Wait, you're saying its name is "Legion" because they are many?
     
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  16. Christopher

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    That is how the word is generally used. Although etymologically, it means a specially selected unit of soldiers (from the root meaning to gather, choose, or read), so it could be taken as a reference to the LSH's rather strict admissions standards.

    Anyway, the issues with doing LSH effectively on a TV budget go well beyond cast size. A show set a thousand years in the future in a multispecies civilization, having regular adventures in space and on distant worlds or on a hyper-futuristic Earth, would be quite expensive to do well even with a small cast.
     
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    Supergirl - The Final Season
    Season 6 - episode 7 - "Fear Knot" - Mid-season finale


    SG / Zor-El: Framing the filler, SG and her father were rescued. Instead of the coming fish-out-of-water story, i would rather see a few episodes dive deep into his feelings--what he lost--more than his brief "I cried rivers / oceans of tears" scene.

    Alex:
    Some might try to use the "she's her sister" line of thought as justification for Alex's monumental stupidity where SG is concerned, but that does not sell. She ends up infected (knowing that beings faster and more powerful have also become victims of the phantom's infection), then she--placing too much faith in her being a "touchstone" / vital to rescuing SG--locks up one of the only qualified members of this group. Brilliant. She finally admits the others can rescue Kara without her, but the showrunners have to play her up as the self-sacrificing type, when everyone knows she's not going to be killed off.

    Nxylgsptinz:
    Hitched a ride on J'onn's ship to cause trouble on earth. She's not an interesting villain, and I have the suspicion that she will--for whatever reason--be involved in a plot against another villain.

    NOTES:
    Fear Visions: with Lena, her fear would have been effective if it was not based on a storybook myth she left behind in childhood, but something that threatens her in the present day--like her brother. At least with Luthor, her fear could have pointed toward something that might unfold during this season, instead of discount FX sequences from The Abyss.

    Kelly was there because...? ...and when did she learn how to operate anything on J'onn's ship? I'd wager that only three of that group were qualified enough to attempt a rescue, but typical of the showrunners, they will have just about anyone do things far outside the scope of their abilities just because.

    GRADE: D+.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    There is a second Kara.

    Otherwise Nia (spellcheck just tried to make me write Mia. As in Speedy with aids.. Did Speedy, Roy from the comics ride the Dragon, before the drug Speed was invented, became popular, because kismet.) would have merged with her younger and probably preaffirmary surgery counterpart.

    The Time police would have picked her up and taken her to vanishing point for training...

    Is Ava surgically altered "Kara Zor-El"?
     
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  19. Christopher

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    A reasonably effective take on the various characters and how they cope differently with their respective fears. Interesting that Lena was the only one analytical enough to realize she was in a fear vision. Alex was too driven by her protectiveness and need to find Kara. Kelly should've figured it out, since she was the one who gave the others the coping tips, but she was caught up in thinking she had to break Alex out of it, so she didn't realize she was the one who needed to break out. Dreamer should've been able to get a handle on unreality, but she's too insecure about her powers.

    And Brainy is terrified of balloons for some reason. Does that mean he had a bad experience with a certain fellow Legionnaire?

    It's easy to see how the story was shaped by production limitations, though. Turning the tower into a ship lets them use a standing location, and the whole episode is a bottle show, set entirely in the tower except for Kara and Zor-El's scenes in the Zone. Plus the limitations on Benoist's availability still showed, since she was only briefly in the same room with the rest of the cast, and that was just a couple of shots in close-up with Chyler Leigh, which could've been shot later than the rest of the episode.

    And now the show's on hiatus until, apparently, August, when it will return for its final 13 episodes.


    I guess you missed the part where they said they'd spent the past three days preparing for the mission. And the two distinct, fairly extensive dialogue scenes where they talked about how valuable Kelly's psychological insights could be to helping them resist the fear visions.
     
  20. David cgc

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    According to David Harewood on Twitter, there were more shots of Kara reunited with the rest of the cast in the Tower, but they were lost in editing.

    Speaking of "lost in editing," I get the sense the VFX team didn't have the purpose of "spaceship hidden in the Tower" communicated to them, since the ship was way too small and didn't correspond to any of the features of the building exterior that were reflected on the interior. Yeah, yeah, bigger on the inside, all that, but it very High School movie project.