Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by The Realist, Mar 31, 2021.
Download the CW app.
Can’t get it to work on my tv. I can use my phone but it’s rather small.
I’ll find another way. Like purchasing it off iTunes
So Superman’s uncle is alive. I hope he isn’t evil.
Looks like they’re trying to make Lex a Trump like person. I hope that isn’t the case. Lex is better than that.
I'm so tired of TV trials that take mere days instead of months or years. It would've been simpler and more realistic just to have Lex get out on bail and employ legal maneuverings to discredit the charges in the press, get the public on his side despite what the evidence showed.
And of course, the courtroom procedure was utterly ridiculous -- Lex switching directly to closing argument in the middle of questioning witnesses, without the prosecutor objecting. TV courtroom procedure is always ridiculous, though. The trial of Oliver Queen on Arrow was particularly nonsensical.
I thought that last week's action was overly set-bound because of pandemic filming, but apparently that episode was mostly finished before the lockdowns. So this is the first one that I can say is overly set-bound because of pandemic filming. Like having William watch the trial on a TV at CatCo when he was supposed to be at the courthouse according to dialogue. (And what was that weird bit where William shook his fist and said "Yes!" when Lex started to get the jury on his side? That seemed ill-timed.)
Also, why were all these people watching the trial on a public access channel? Doesn't CatCo literally have its own cable network?
Jason Behr auditioned to play Superman in Superman Returns. Later he joked that he did not get the role because his ears stick out too much.
was feeling very sleepy so turned off halfway through.
Might go back but not 100% sure. Kara in the phantom zone, yawn, lex on trial, double++ yawn.
Agreed with all of this.
It was supposed to appear at that point that Lex had lost control and that his ranting had sunk him. Lex himself was surprised to learn that wasn’t the case when the jury ultimately acquitted him. I agree the writing didn’t exactly make that crystal clear, however. Cryer gave it his all, but the trial stuff in general was the weakest part of the episode.
^It's a pretty amusing bit of satire that even Lex Luthor is shocked by what a powerful man can get away with in broad daylight in this day and age, just by being obvious about how affronted he is that the world refuses to wholly defer to his obvious majesty.
True, the thematic subtext worked all right. It was the dramatic execution that floundered.
Yeah, the Arrowverse writers seem to really have no idea how trials work. Just like with Oliver's trial in Arrow, the courtroom scenes were ridiculous. But we did get some good stuff from John Cryer, so it wasn't a total bust. Lena manipulating Lex into off on his little rant was pretty good too.
Other than that, it was an OK episode.
I already saw @The Realist, and a few other people guess Zor-El was going to be in the Phantom Zone, so that wasn't a huge surprise. We did get some nice scenes with him and Kara though.
We also got some nice stuff with Alex, J'Onn and the other trying to rescue Kara. J'Onn and M'Gann's talk on the balcony was pretty good. And Brainy and Nia got a couple good scenes too.
Don't mistake dramatic license for ignorance. You can know perfectly well how something works, yet still portray it differently in fiction for the sake of the narrative. For instance, the fact that Superman and Supergirl can fly does not mean the writers of their shows don't know how gravity works. It means they understand they're writing fantasy rather than fact, and thus they feel free to change how it works.
Besides, there's a long, long tradition of unrealistic courtroom procedure in TV and movies. It's far more rare to see it done right. I recall that the Punisher's trial in season 2 of Marvel's Daredevil was particularly absurd in its procedures, which was egregious in a show whose main character was a lawyer.
Speaking of our Lord Superman, have they told him that his cousin is missing? It is weird how both shows don’t seem to reference each other when it makes sense to do so.
Par for the course with multi-series franchises. Nobody in The Flash last night mentioned the Legends when there were time anomalies happening.
Anyway, I'm not sure the various Arrowverse shows are even happening at the same time anymore. I mean, Black Lightning did a one-year time jump between seasons, but The Flash and Supergirl picked up events immediately after their finales, Batwoman picked up maybe just a few days after its finale, and there's no telling when Superman & Lois takes place relative to the others, since it's new.
Transilvane, now that's a deep cut.
..or the rules about removal of elected officials, police procedure--the works. The showrunners force fit law into whatever hole they're using just to get whatever plot they've concocted, no matter how nonsensical it turns out to be. That said, this is a weekly superhero series, not a law drama, so like most TV series throughout history, the events will be compressed to get to the result that launches the next arc of this final season.
The Arrowverse is the most inconsistent filmed superhero universe (and that's saying something considering the problems in other comic-based films). You would have to squint with effort just to see where the remaining series all line up. As it stands, the characters of Superman and Lois make no reference to Supergirl, but I would not be shocked if the lead-up to the Supergirl series finale (as I've theorized about) has some crossover with S&L, conveniently forgetting how their timelines are (seemingly) not aligned.
The other night I actually googled if Superman & Lois is in the Arrowverse. At this point it seems it would be easier to explain some crossover through a cosmic event than to try to explain that they co-exist together in the same world.
I don’t expect any crossovers due to the pandemic keeping all the teams separate but the occasional reference wouldn’t hurt
They've been doing that. Even Black Lightning.
I’ve fallen behind on Black Lightning. What is he up do these days?
Getting used to his daughter's new look.
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