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Supergirl - Season Four

Your TV is already dumbed down by the Supergirl writers, who demonize conservatives and have no concept of what they actually think. I realize that for some, quitting is something you do when things don't go your way, but not for most conservatives. I prefer to exercise my right of freedom of speech and call out these writers for what they are doing wrong.

I have no problem with metaphor or allegory, when it is somewhat accurate. Supergirl is anything but. The writers are just throwing a tantrum because Trump won.
You’re throwing a tantrum over Supergirl. They also aren’t demonizing conservatives, just the alt-right who are literally Nazis. There is a huge difference between conservatives and the alt-right.
 
You’re throwing a tantrum over Supergirl. They also aren’t demonizing conservatives, just the alt-right who are literally Nazis. There is a huge difference between conservatives and the alt-right.

Actually, you're the one getting bent out of shape because I'm tired of liberal writers consistently demonizing conservatives. The alt right is horrible. I don't disagree with that. But so is Antifa and so is all forms of socialism. Yet, Supergirl writers don't distinguish between conservatives and the alt-right because they don't understand a thing. They also have put Trump's slogan into the mouths of their most evil villains. They absolutely are demonizing conservatives.
 
Actually, you're the one getting bent out of shape because I'm tired of liberal writers consistently demonizing conservatives. The alt right is horrible. I don't disagree with that. But so is Antifa and so is all forms of socialism. Yet, Supergirl writers don't distinguish between conservatives and the alt-right because they don't understand a thing. They also have put Trump's slogan into the mouths of their most evil villains. They absolutely are demonizing conservatives.
Then stop watching. They aren’t forcing you and you clearly hate it. Why torture yourself unless you want to be angry and have an excuse to complain?
 
Then stop watching. They aren’t forcing you and you clearly hate it. Why torture yourself unless you want to be angry and have an excuse to complain?

Again, I care about the characters and I am not one to ignore something is wrong by taking my ball and going home. The goal of a TV show is to entertain, and on occasion, this show can be excellent. Even this year, there have been some good episodes. When they stop trying to make political statements, the show is very good. I'd rather see something get better than just dump it.

Maybe in another show, I would stop watching. I did that with Quantico when they got too political. But Supergirl is a classic character. I'd rather see it made better, and I know it can be done.
 
It should maybe be noted that the President who is standing in for Trump is most likely a Democrat. He was vice-president to a Democrat president. Also personality wise even though he is sort of standing in from Trump he hardly seems to have Trump's personality and temperment. He doesn't come off as a idiot or someone looking out for his ego. He actually feels like someone crumbing under the pressure of a crisis he can't control and making tons of bad choices. Which is kind of Lockwood's arc as well if you recall where he was when we first saw his past. While the show is being topical it's not exactly coping reality in exact detail.

Of course it's not exactly subtle either but for the type of show it is I see it as fine. I would never watch this show and all of sudden expect "West Wing." when it comes to more thought provoking political talk. It is what is. A family friendly comic book show about a lady who wears a cape, fights crime, usually of the most absurd nature and chills with her friends.


Jason
 
It should maybe be noted that the President who is standing in for Trump is most likely a Democrat. He was vice-president to a Democrat president.

Trump was a registered Democrat decades ago. Some people pick their parties based on opportunism rather than ideology. And the binary party structure masks a lot of variation. There are moderate-to-conservative Democrats in the party, and a female candidate like Marsdin may have chosen a fairly conservative, traditional white male running mate as a way to bring in old-fashioned voters, sort of like why President Obama paired up with Joe Biden.


Also personality wise even though he is sort of standing in from Trump he hardly seems to have Trump's personality and temperment. He doesn't come off as a idiot or someone looking out for his ego.

He does come off as a shallow opportunist who cares more about his political image and popularity than anything else, and who will bend whatever way the wind is blowing in order to boost his poll numbers. That's pretty Trump-like, though not to quite as extreme a degree.


He actually feels like someone crumbing under the pressure of a crisis he can't control and making tons of bad choices.

That kinda sums up Trump's entire presidency, and indeed much of his prior business career.


Of course it's lazy writing to make an allegorical character too exact a match to a single real person, so I'm glad they're not doing that with Baker. But the parallels are stronger than you suggest.
 
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There was a comic book 10 years ago called "The Blue Marvel" which was a Marvel Comic set in the 1960s about an African American super hero more powerful than Superman. A line from that book made me smile: "The last thing good decent white folks need to know is that there is "negro" out there who can bend steel in his bare hands."

Lockwood's Agenda is going to change a smidge after Super-Jimmy broke his masturbating hand. Not that he's going to be in a calm mood after his wife has been murdered. You gotta feel sympathy for his dick, for losing it's two best friends on the same day. Otherwise a dead wife is going to accelerate his plans, and strip away any subtlety, to make America Human again.

Remember IRL when Justin Trudeau welcomed all the refugees that America changed their mind about? I wonder if that is happening as well on Earth 39?

Why doesn't Supergirl use the extrapolator? Not only could she find Lockwood/Baker free Earths that know nothing about Aliens, but wherever in the universe these refugees are from she could find "versions" of their homeworlds that do not have the same political/natural instability, or the refugee in question was never born there, and is therefore not hunted... Which is admitting that Earth 39 is a shithole Universe. Alternately, send Lockwood to Earth X to find an alive Nazi version of his dead wife, so he can live proudly happily ever after under a swastika, so long as they never figure out that he is an alien.
 
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What I wonder is how the rest of the world and United States is thinking about what is going on with the President and Lockwood. People must be scarred to death to think about going to National City. You have all the stuff with Supergirl in the news being a villain and you got Nazi like people marching in the streets and for awhile now and all of the Presidents attention has been focused on this one city. Also people have got to be wondering. W'here did Superman go and why isn't he helping fix this mess." I'm also guessing the stock market has crashed and their is world recession going on because of all this.


Jason
 
No way would Superman tell all his enemies that he is going on vacation, and this is when they should strike.

Okay, maybe he is a dumbass enough to believe in the goodness of Human beings.

If Marsden's election was shady, then why isn't the Speaker of the House POUTUS?
 
No way would Superman tell all his enemies that he is going on vacation, and this is when they should strike.

Okay, maybe he is a dumbass enough to believe in the goodness of Human beings.

If Marsden's election was shady, then why isn't the Speaker of the House POUTUS?

She resigned before anything legally was done
 
I hate to break it to you, but that's simply not true. Lois and Clark didn't go into politics. They told stories. The Flash has very little politics. No good show spends this much time demonizing half the country just because they don't agree with them politically.

If you want politics, watch the news.

Allow me to rebut this point.

You agree, Lockwood is a Nazi. Yet Supergirl fighting him is a political statement.

And Lois and Clark? They too fought Nazis.

https://lois-and-clark-the-new-adventures-of-superman.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Mann

Because everyone should hate Nazis.
 
She resigned before anything legally was done

So "something" may be in the pipeline to punish Marsdin, which by extension may impact on Baker.

We may not be seeing it, but the alien amnesty was national, and the repeal was national. Sons of Liberty and ICE are rounding up Aliens in all 50 states.

Are the men with sticks and nets coming for President Marsdin? Will her own secret service protection turn on her, or will her own secret Service protection shoot to kill ICE and The Sons of Liberty coming for their protectee.

Marsden is a multi millionaire or billionaire?

How Lockwood and Baker contend against a Rockerfeller is different from how the Nazis contended against Anne Frank. Although the Nazis froze the Jewish bank accounts, seized their assets and property, and then melted their faces to collect their gold fillings.

Sigh.
 
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Again, I care about the characters and I am not one to ignore something is wrong by taking my ball and going home. The goal of a TV show is to entertain, and on occasion, this show can be excellent. Even this year, there have been some good episodes. When they stop trying to make political statements, the show is very good. I'd rather see something get better than just dump it.

Maybe in another show, I would stop watching. I did that with Quantico when they got too political. But Supergirl is a classic character. I'd rather see it made better, and I know it can be done.

The makers dont care.

All they care about is ratings not WHY someone watches a program.

If you dont like the direction something is going, the best way to send a message is dont watch. If enough people think they you, others will do the same. Therefore producers need to either change or go out of business.


I wont watch the next starwars film unless I hear it actually is good. Last jedi was boring crap that even 80mg of oxycodone (legally prescriped) and half a bottle of champagne couldn't make interesting. So I just want reward Disney by giving them my money.

Whinging on a forum but still watching a TV show you disagree with accomplishes nothing.

No way would Superman tell all his enemies that he is going on vacation, and this is when they should strike.

Maybe So they dont fill his in box with emails?
 
Calling the issues the show deals with "political" is an effort to render them morally neutral, which they're not. Like any hero worthy of the name, Supergirl is fighting violence, cruelty, fear, and hatred. If you see yourself and your "politics" in those fundamental moral ills and evils, then that's on you.

Let's get real. She's fighting the writers' warped perceptions of Trump and the evil that they feel he is causing, even though that has nothing to do with reality. Supergirl has shown this season that she can go outside the law if it doesn't suit her, which is anything but heroic. Yes, the president is a democrat, which is something the writers do not point out, and what's even less real is that a democrat would pick someone that clearly is acting like Trump.

Again, the writers even once took Trump's slogan, and put it in the mouth of murdering aliens. They also ignore the evils on the left, which far outpace anything, like Antifa, antisemitism, racism, etc.

That kinda sums up Trump's entire presidency, and indeed much of his prior business career.

Yeah-- record low unemployment, following the Constitution, a booming economy, better deals internationally--really crumbling.

All they care about is ratings not WHY someone watches a program.

Then maybe they might notice that the ratings are at all time lows, and the only reason the show continues is because it's on CW.

Whinging on a forum but still watching a TV show you disagree with accomplishes nothing.

Actually it gets a discussion going, and you never know who reads it. Writers do read forums. Without feedback, how will they ever know how people feel and why?
 
The Earth 38's can vote for anyone they want, they are not "our" voters, although they did not vote Baker for President, they voted for Marsdin.

If the showrunners' were truly upset that Hillary lost, they would have made Baker the alien President and Marsdin the human vice president. Making the female president an alien with the illegitimate claim on the office would be a slap in the face of a Hillary presidency and a dog whistle to the alt rights to further descry the 1st female American presidency on our world.

Of course Supergirl would be canceled if not for being on the CW...

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/cw-2018-19-season-ratings/

... then again so would Riverdale, Supernatural and The Flash.


Roadtrip! :beer:

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