Supergirl - Season Four

[Reverend]

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^My problem with this is that it really should have been something J'onn would have known to be a consequence going in and specifically warned them that it was probably not a viable option for Alex. I mean best case scenario she's going to think she's suffering from a neural degenerative disease, worst case her identity and sense of self completely unravels.
Kinda hard to be the DEO moral centre when the mind wipe has left her as either a drooling vegetable or some kind of dangerous sociopath.

 

[DigificWriter]

Honestly, I doubt there is any narrative point since the wipe will be reversed quickly no matter what. The real purpose, as I see it, is to create melodrama. It's a twist on the amnesia trope.

I realize that it will probably be "undone" soon... hence my lack of understanding as to what point it serves narratively.

I don't like it when television series introduce "melodrama" simply because they can, and it's a temptation that Supergirl has avoided up to this point in time.

 

[Guy Gardener]

J'onn needs to replace President Baker.

Baker is Sarah Palin.

The progun wingnut on the ticket to make hardliners happy with accepting such a liberal president.

The humans have declared war.

This is a radically more than proportionate response, considering Kara can fly up to Congress and start pulling out hearts.

A secretly alien president is actually the Status Quo.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Considering the president ordered all agencies to let aliens working for them go, shouldn't Brainy be dismissed from the DEO?

 

[JanewayRulz!]

This whole secret identity story is so stupid. She could just get a new identity. Bruce would give her another one. I like that they didn’t do this with Superman. You don’t want to mess with him. .

She could get a new identity, but then her mom and foster sister would also have to relocate under new identities too so they could not be used to leverage Supergirl against her will.

As for messing with Superman... I think Lex Luthor did that in BvS: Dawn of Justice (Save Martha!) to his everlasting regret.

Not so much as a mention of Lockwood, the Children of Liberty, or the anti-alien movement; for the first time this season (excepting the "Elseworlds" installment), the episode did not feel of a piece with a greater whole. Even the thing with Alex, while emotionally potent, felt contrived in its setup and justification -- and as TREK_GOD_1 points out, appears likely to be negated quickly.

In short, the writers need to reverse course from the secret identity shenanigans ASAP, and get back to the powerful story they've been telling so well and consistently up to now.

TPTB did refer to the Children of Liberty when James had his tete -e - tete with Lena over his actions when he was kidnapped by the CoL. I wish at that moment James also suggested if he could forgive her for LYING to him then she should reconsider her feelings about Supergirl.

Incidentally, while it's cool to see J'onn adopting his private detective role from the comics, I wonder what a P.I. needs with such a huge, ornate office. (Or how he can afford it. The DEO's retirement benefits must be awesome.) I mean, in TV terms, it implies that it will be a major standing set from now on, perhaps replacing the DEO as the set where Supergirl and her team discuss the crisis of the week, so they want it to be impressive and roomy enough that they can shoot it from a lot of interesting angles, and maybe have room for the occasional action scene. But it is kind of extravagant for a detective's office. Ralph Dibny would be insanely jealous.

Perhaps he just crushed a few coal briquettes into diamonds?

I like the JJ-PI office. Makes me think of Warehouse 13, season 1 of Sleepy Hollow or The Librarians

There were a couple of rather big, nonsensical things about Alex's request:

• She wanted her memory of Supergirl's true identity removed, but when that happens, there will be no legitimate reason for Alex to resist Haley's quest to learn SG's secret, after all, Alex will have no personal, emotional stake in protecting SG, which also extends to her now nonexistent personal feelings not softening her view of SG's vigilantism. One cannot assume she will have some "value" system in place that would prevent her from seeing all superpowered aliens as a potential threat.
• How is it possible to remove Alex's knowledge of SGs identity when she's known Kara as a superpowered alien since childhood--long before Kara took on the role of Supergirl? There's no believable way (even in comic book fantasy) J'onn could pick apart all of Alex's life memories to make her believe Kara was just her adopted sister with no trace of those formative experiences? Doing that should also erase other moment-to-moment, day-by-day shared experiences and/or choices Alex made because Kara was in her life..

I think JJ is just erasing her knowledge of SG's "secret" identity, not the memory of all the missions they undertook together or all the times SG saved AD. I doubt he erased the knowledge of the Morea alien killing himself in front of her, just to avoid going back under the control of Col Haley. One doesn't need an alien sister to recognize the immorality of taking children and brutalizing them until they will murder on command.

As for the missing pieces of Alex's memory, I can see Lena talking to Alex about how AD begged LL to put aside her antipathy for SG and save her life last autumn. I'd even love it if TPTB brought back Maxwell Lord to talk with AD since we all know HE knows SG's Super Secret. What I hope doesn't occur is for AD to suddenly develop a crush on SG and confide same to her sister Kara or her mom Eliza.

 

[Kirk Prime]

Nice to have an episode where politics are not shoved down the audience's throat. And it was a pretty solid entry, with that Alex twist at the end being some compelling writing, as it will be VERY interesting to see how Alex is without knowing Kara's secret.

It's also ironic since so many others know the secret outside of the DEO, and you would think that the DEO, who is supposed to be the good guys, would be the most trustworthy.

 

[Guy Gardener]

How to avoid a totally legal investigation into illegal behaviour?

Everything Kara and Jon did yesterday, President Trump wants to do tomorrow to Mueller.

Everything President Baker did to that disloyal Supergirl last week, President Trump wants to do Mueller and Pelozi next week.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Spoiler: First Look at Jon Cryer as Lex Luthor!

Source: CBR

 

[Jayson1]

Spoiler: First Look at Jon Cryer as Lex Luthor!

Source: CBR

That's a little disapointing. He doesn't look very imposing in that pic to me. Maybe it will play better on tv when we see him in action.


Jason

 

[Kai "the spy"]

That's a little disapointing. He doesn't look very imposing in that pic to me. Maybe it will play better on tv when we see him in action.


Jason

I have to disagree. I find his look more than suitably sinister in that photo.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Cryer is a great actor. I'm not worried he'll be solid.

#EvilDuckie

 

[Guy Gardener]

Lex has had a sleeper agent in plain sight for almost three years now.

Miss Teschmacher.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Lex has had a sleeper agent in plain sight for almost three years now.

Miss Teschmacher.

I believe that's pronounced Miss TeschMACHER!!!!

 

[The Realist]

Lex has had a sleeper agent in plain sight for almost three years now.

Miss Teschmacher.

That actually would be ... kind of a cool turn.

 

[Dick Whitman]

That actually would be ... kind of a cool turn.

I really hope so. Obviously Supergirl is its own show. They do not have to any connection between Miss Teschmacher and Lex Luthor.

YET... Originally on this show she seemed to exist just for Cat Grant to call her name like Gene Hackman did in the movies. Ever since than the part got bigger and bigger. Working for Lena and discovered to be secretly smart. Possibly just because they like the actress. But they clearly wanted to have Lex For a long time. Even if it was not always planned for her to be secretly working for him they certainly have the opportunity to go that direction now if they want.

 

[Christopher]

Personally I think movie Luthor is the worst possible Luthor to emulate or reference. Hackman was great, but the version of the character he was stuck with playing was far weaker than most other incarnations. So I hope they don't reference that version too heavily, though that's probably a vain hope.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Gene Hackman is going to show up next year as Lionel's brother Uncle Lenny Luthor.

 

[dahj]

He'd make a nice Jor-El...

 

[Guy Gardener]

Born in 1930, that makes Gene 89.

He could convincingly play (old) Seg-El.

Hmm.

John Byrne invented a grandfather of Superman called "Seyg-El" in 1988.

Weird.

 

[Jayson1]

You know what I wonder. Is Dean Cain ever going to return as Jeremiah Danvers. It's weird they have this kind of plot point just out there that nobody ever talks about and you think they would address it at some point.


Jason