Supergirl - Season Four

[The Realist]

The very fact that the victims were aliens also negates how people will feel. You see it all the time in Sci-Fi . Like how on "Stargate" SG-1 could kill as many aliens and Jaffa as they wanted but the times in which, humans are killed is rare. The alien makeup sort of negates the impact for viewers because it feels less real. Makes it feel more safe IMO thus it's easier to look past it.

This has certainly been the case on Supergirl. Kara has killed Parasite, the pilot (and crew?) of a Dominator ship, and several White Martians, most without batting an eye, but loudly proclaims her refusal to kill whenever the enemy has a human-looking face. It's a glaring inconsistency and an unpleasant bit of hypocrisy I blame on the showrunners, who don't even seem to be aware they're doing it. In their minds, CGI monstrosities apparently don't "count" as killing.

 

[Kirk Prime]

Why wouldn't redemption be in the cards? He's hardly like the former monsters I've seen in real life who served time in prison for murders, but turned their lives around either through religion, or some kind of counselling. If they--hardcore killers who once had not a piece of a moral compass can be redeemed, then Lockwood is not too far gone.

As mentioned earlier, with the Lockwood origin set-up, the showrunners cannot drop the ball--when Agent Liberty is confronted by the protagonists--in addressing his tragic experiences and reactions, which cannot be dismissed out of hand, just to wag that finger.

As others have pointed out, they tend to ignore things like murder when they want to redeem someone. And yes, Laurel on Arrow is a perfect example. She was a cold blooded killer, multiple times, yet is walking around playing lawyer right now.

If she can be turned good, then why not Agent Liberty?

I could see him slowly realize that he had gone too far, especially as the season goes on and they likely do something far worse than the Kryptonite gas attack. Then he'd turn himself in and try to stop it. But he's killed some people and was part of several terrorist acts, so he's probably going to jail as a best case scenario.

That would be real world justice, not fictional world justice. Let's say he has a change of heart. He could end up helping the DEO. Not saying they are going that route, but they always could.

 

[thribs]

Batman would like a word with you

He’s rich. That’s a super power.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I enjoyed this week's episode a great deal.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Supergirl
Season 4 / episode 4- "Ahimsa"

SG/Kara / Temp-Benoist: So, Kara is claustrophobic (her hyperventilating in the suit). Who knew.
With a rift between Alex and Kara forming, something tells me she will take a leave of absence--right at the time Comrade Kara begins whatever her mission turns out to be.

Agent Liberty / Mercy: Initially, Liberty questioning how ruthless Mercy was hinted at a possible return to the legal side of the tracks, but "They need to be afraid for their children"...well, he's completely locked into his campaign at the moment. Still knocking it out of the park with his villainy.

Lena: "I could murder someone right now" Emotion in the moment, but the series needs to stop screwing around and move the character to living up to her true potential as a Luthor.

James: With one word, his going back to the Guardian role was not long in waiting, and notice how he felt sort of slighted by Alex saying they had "enough boots n the ground", as if Guardian was more or less on the same level as run-of-the-mill DEO agents. Now that he's been exposed at the fairgrounds--as a champion against aliens, the plot is begging for James to become a genuine target.

I'm just wondering how the relationship with Lena will survive if she's forced to reveal that it was her backroom dealing (to drive him toward dropping the Guardian as some pushback against his new "anti-alien" reputation) that saved him from jail.

Alex: The President was correct about the entire alien / Supergirl situation. It seemed the colonel's whispered advice stopped him short of revealing a darker contingency plan. Alex was spot-on in dressing down Supergirl / asserting her authority. Supergirl's "I'm a hero" line does not include making it up as she goes along / acting on whims.

J'onn: His Manchester Black sub-plot could be promising, if he uses the comic powers while sitting on the less-than-ethical fence.

Nia: "I have a feeling something bad is going to happen" Dawning powers or just fear....

NOTES: Parasite via Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan's Ceti eels....

GRADE: B+

 

[thribs]

I was really hoping James Marsters would play Black but I suppose he’s has that other show.
I wonder if they are working to the Elite in this. I don’t really see Supergirl having what it takes to beat them though.

I take it the armour stuff was done to write Melissa off the show for the time being.

 

[The Realist]

So, Kara is claustrophobic (her hyperventilating in the suit). Who knew.

We did, actually, ever since early last season. Psi tapped into Kara's latent trauma from being trapped alone and adrift in her pod after Krypton's destruction, and exploited it. I thought it was a great touch on somebody's part to remember that and use it here. It was also nice to return briefly to the DEO's desert facility -- this season so far seems to be leaning into the show's history in interesting ways, especially after last week's episode.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Speaking of history and Parasite, didn’t he blowup when Supergirl killed him? Maybe those are not just random eels Agent Liberty is putting into Aliens. But small pieces of Parasite’s remains. Next week’s episode is titled “Parasite Lost”.

 

[Christopher]

Beebo exists on Earth-38!!

And yay, they finally remembered the DEO's season 1 desert HQ, although evidently it's been remodeled with the same kind of holding facilities they have in town. And they brought back the Hellgrammite too. I don't remember if the duplicator is a character we've seen before.

I find it hard to believe that Brainiac-5, a 12th-level intellect from the 31st century, had so much trouble thinking of a solution as simple as using nanites to clear the kryptonite from the air.

It's starting to become evident that Nia gets premonitions in her dreams. First, she woke up from a nap and felt compelled to go to the pizzeria where Brainy was about to be attacked, and now she woke up from a nap and rushed to tell James that she had a feeling something bad would happen if he suited up again.

 

[Romulan_spy]

The atmosphere poisoned with kryptonite problem was solved pretty quickly. I kinda expected it to last more than 2 eps. Although, hopefully, we will get to see Kara in the armored suit again. I liked it a lot.

 

[dahj]

Lena should go over to Black Lightning to teach Jennifer about boxing stuff.

 

[Christopher]

Lena should go over to Black Lightning to teach Jennifer about boxing stuff.

Well, to be fair, it's easier for Brainy to literally program that box simulation into his own mind, while Jennifer has to practice it the old-fashioned way.

 

[dahj]

Beebo exists on Earth-38!!

Not only that, but Otis stepped on him, and he immediately felt Beebo's wrath and ended up dead.

 

[Christopher]

I wonder if Mercy and Otis are really dead. It's hard to believe they'd kill off Mercy Graves so casually after establishing how important she had been in Lena's past. It would be odd to set up a thread like that and then just abandon it without comment.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Beebo, like Big Belly Burger, exists on every Earth.

 

[Romulan_spy]

I find it hard to believe that Brainiac-5, a 12th-level intellect from the 31st century, had so much trouble thinking of a solution as simple as using nanites to clear the kryptonite from the air.

I wonder if maybe the writers are not sure how to write for the character. When you have a character that is light years more intelligent than the other characters on the show, it is hard to show that intelligence without eclipsing the other characters. I mean logically, if Brainiac-5 used his brain to its full potential, he should probably render the DEO obsolete. He should be able to single-handedly solve all their problems in a fraction of a time it would normally take. So having him struggle at first to come up with a solution, was probably necessary to give the other characters something to contribute. Realistically, he should have come up with the nanite solution withing 10 minutes of Kara getting poisoned.

 

[Dick Whitman]

I wonder if Mercy and Otis are really dead. It's hard to believe they'd kill off Mercy Graves so casually after establishing how important she had been in Lena's past. It would be odd to set up a thread like that and then just abandon it without comment.

I agree. I think they will be back. We will finally be seeing Lex Luthor this season. Hard to imagine they would not appear with him.

Plus these Arrowverse series have a tendency seemingly killing off characters who pop up alive without much explanation. A lot of that recently. According to the Arrowverse wikia both Bronze Tiger and Hellgrammite were dead. But given it had been years since their previous appearances I am not sure if that was really directly stated on Arrow or Supergirl.

 

[Noname Given]

The atmosphere poisoned with kryptonite problem was solved pretty quickly. I kinda expected it to last more than 2 eps. Although, hopefully, we will get to see Kara in the armored suit again. I liked it a lot.

What, Melisa Benoist wasn't on Broadway for THAT long.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Unwelcome American nanites invaded every country on Earth.

Surely there will be political repercussions?

 

[Christopher]

According to the Arrowverse wikia both Bronze Tiger and Hellgrammite were dead.

I think Bronze Tiger was killed off in a comic story that the wiki presumed was canonical but actually wasn't. As for the Hellgrammite, I thought he was dead too, but I guess it was ambiguous.