Fingers crossed for Lobo next year.
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Is Lobo is suppose to be a a anti-hero or bad guy? I am sort of familiar with the name and I think he has something to do with Satan but not sure about much else. Of course I might be getting the Satan stuff from Hellboy.
Jason
No Satan connection that I know of. Lobo is an alien bounty hunter who started as a parody of ultraviolent comics antiheroes like the Punisher. So whether he's a villain or an antihero depends on the story.
Well, he's been on two different Justice League teams in recent years. He's not his best there, but they do prove he works as the Bad Boy on a hero team akin to Spike and Jayne.
Of course, knowing the Arrow-verse, they'd have to find a way for him to be able to appear human (seriously, even Brainiac 5 couldn't wear his alien make-up all the time?), and it's also uncertain whether The CW would even be allowed to use him (especially in a recurring or regular role), even more so given that WB is still working on a Lobo movie.
Of course, knowing the Arrow-verse, they'd have to find a way for him to be able to appear human (seriously, even Brainiac 5 couldn't wear his alien make-up all the time?), and it's also uncertain whether The CW would even be allowed to use him (especially in a recurring or regular role), even more so given that WB is still working on a Lobo movie.
Brainy's makeup was ridiculously unflattering, especially knowing the actor can work a non-human skintone from Defiance. The light-absorbing future-sweater was also an interesting choice for television.
Nothing to do with Satan or the occult at all. He's an alien, not a demon. But, yes, depending on who is writing him, he's pretty much an anti-hero at best. He's violent and and dangerous and not all that concerned with truth, justice, and the American way. And usually played for outrageous black comedy. (He's pretty much an over-the-top parody of ultra-violent bad-boy heroes like Wolverine.)
Think a super-powered "Sons of Anarchy" biker type from space.
(Maybe you heard him compared to a "Hell's Angel" biker gang member and that's where you got the Satan idea?)
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Lobo was offhandedly referenced in Season 1 Episode 14 when the DEO was trying to figure out who was abducting/killing Fort Rozz escapees.
I'd pay the execs to do a Lobo episode. 
In the first Injustice console game, he was one of the DLCs. Wish they had more characters like him in the DCU.
In the first Injustice console game, he was one of the DLCs. Wish they had more characters like him in the DCU.
If Wynn "invents" a solid alternative to lethal firearms, and is allowed to keep the patent, won't that make him a boy billionaire, and therefore a peer of Lenas? I don't think these two will hook up, but her billionaire girlfriends will be pushing Lena to meet the new fish in their exclusive dating pool.
Although J'onn was upset that DEO ordinance was being sold by civilians to civillians.
An arms salesman wás abusing a government patent?
J'onn' s lawyers should have nuked the site from orbit.
Although J'onn was upset that DEO ordinance was being sold by civilians to civillians.
An arms salesman wás abusing a government patent?
J'onn' s lawyers should have nuked the site from orbit.
Would a secretive government agency allow one of its employees to file a patent on a weapon? I could see that if he was an independent contractor (think Northrop Grumman), but at the end of the day, he's just one of their employees. Besides, the second a character reaches that level of success, there would be no reason for him to remain (or be settled with) a working stiff, so bye-bye Winn.
A secret government agency can't hold patents, because they do not exist.
They would need a dummy to act as a proxy.
They would need a dummy to act as a proxy.
One thing that will be interesting will be seeing how they follow up the gun phasing out and what non-lethal weapons will look like. If they look like some super fancy alien stuff that can't exist in the real world they are going to basically butcher their metaphor because police in the real world don't have fancy alien stuff to use instead of real weapons. Plus at some point you got to address that the guns when comes to military or cop units are often less of the issue than the rules and procedure they have to use them. Just because cops have guns it doesn't mean they have to open fire at the first sign they feel like they are in danger. The whole shoot first and ask questions later concept is terrible. Also isn't arming police like they are the army even a bigger issue at times more than them having some guns that can kill?
Jason
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What? That's a contradictory statement. Metaphors are non-literal by definition, so it makes absolutely no sense to say a metaphor fails if it isn't literal enough. I mean, obviously there are differences between aliens from destroyed planets and immigrants/refugees from Earth countries, but the former can still work as an immigration allegory because it's about the more abstract principles rather than the nitty-gritty specifics.
Your last sentence is the point, I think -- that it's inappropriate to arm a police force as if it were a military. The DEO used to be a military force for fighting aliens, but over the past few years, as a result of working with Supergirl and of President Marsdin's alien amnesty, its mission has evolved so that it's more of a police force protecting both humans and aliens. So J'onn is basically making it more like, say, the police in the United Kingdom -- not using lethal weapons as a rule because that's not consistent with their mission statement.
I was watching a Japanese police dorama series a number of years ago, and remember being struck by the way that, when a crisis necessitated the issuance of guns to officers, the moment was treated with grave and almost ritualistic solemnity. The guns were ordinarily kept secured, and it was treated as a very big deal, by the show and the characters, when the storage units were unlocked and the cops lined up to be issued the weaponry.
Another issue is that it would be rather hard to keep a security organization secret when they're wandering around with alien non-lethal supertechnology. Of course, they're fine operating out of a very public skyscraper, so I guess they aren't that concerned about secrecy.
The better move would be to wait until you can release the non-lethal supertechnology to the city police force. That way you're not making yourself more conspicuous.
The better move would be to wait until you can release the non-lethal supertechnology to the city police force. That way you're not making yourself more conspicuous.
While the procedures are a little different, the same basic principle applies in modern UK dramas, and I would imagine many European dramas, unless focus on gendarme (combined police/militia units).
Alex has been carrying her glowy blue alien gun around since last season.
That's probably what tipped Lena off to the DEO's existence.
On the other hand, aliens have been "out" on Earth-38 since the amnesty act last year, so you'd think the government would be openly recruiting their help or trading for their tech, not just doing it secretly through the DEO. Although the season 3 showrunners have been less interested in exploring the ramifications of all those alien refugees being around, with only a few token nods to the idea.
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