How do you know they won’t call him after the break? Exactly how quickly do you want stories to wrap up?
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Honestly, it would be a big plot hole IMO if they don't mention Superman.
I agree, with the world coming apart where is Superman? you introduce him earlier on in a few eps and then he is a no show? I would think he would be there for his cousin and the world. I also don't like how superheroes don't ever seem to be able to have a love life. something always has to happen to ruin it (Spiderman seems to be one of the few given a love life. and now the Flash)
Superman has a love life with Lois. Barry has Iris. Jay Garrick was married. If Flash runs long enough, guessing Ralph Dibney will meet Sue. Arrow is supposed to be with Black Canary.
Kara, if all goes right, and they sure are setting up for it, should be meeting Brainiac 5 soon.
But the problem with Supergirl is that they shouldn't create situations where Superman would be there, and not have him there without damn good reason.
I wish they didn't weaken Superman so much last year.
Kara, if all goes right, and they sure are setting up for it, should be meeting Brainiac 5 soon.
But the problem with Supergirl is that they shouldn't create situations where Superman would be there, and not have him there without damn good reason.
I wish they didn't weaken Superman so much last year.
I think the crop symbol DEO investigates in the evening is the same one Sam "dreams" of burning just before she wakes up, which would mean no time jump.
There might be a time jump after Kara's party, to allow the time for symbols to start showing up all over the place, so Crisis might have fit in there, if there wasn't a slight discrepancy of Kara's apartment decorations.
I'm starting to get the impression that Crisis won't be included on the Supergirl Season 3 DVD set.
I don't, but think about it yourself for a second. An evil Kryptonian is burning stuff on Earth and wreaking havoc. It's incredibly arrogant of Supergirl to not think of calling Superman for help. She talks about how she once beat Superman when she had to, and the writers painfully tried to force that on the viewer, but as soon as the fight was over, Kara collapsed herself and was unconscious for awhile. She didn't exactly kick his butt.
And even if Kara was cocky enough to say, "I got this," no one at the DEO thought to say, "hey, a Kryptonian is doing bad things, maybe we should call Superman for help." No one? It would be the FIRST thing out there.
As for calling him after the break, there have been no reports of Superman showing up as of now. Hopefully.
I think there is a big reason why TPTB won't bring Superman in: it is a very feminist show that is all about Girl Power. Heck, the only time they did bring Superman in, it was to make Supergirl look good. They are going to want the story to be about Supergirl and how she saves the day. If they do bring him in, it will be for Reign to kick his butt and have Supergirl save him. I would hate that but it is my prediction. I hope I am wrong because I do think that from an in-universe point of view, Superman should be involved.
Do you also complain that nobody on Team Arrow thinks to call in the Flash, or even Supergirl herself when they run into a spot of bother?
In case you haven't clued this in from the title, this show is about Supergirl. She's the main hero of the show, she's gonna beat the baddie. Superman might show up and help, he might not, we'll see. But Supergirl is gonna win in the end.
Or why the folks on Deep Space 9 didn't call in the Enterprise whenever they were in trouble, or why Tony Stark didn't call Captain America and Thor to help him with Extremis, or...
I'd certainly like to see more of Superman on the show, but it is still a show called Supergirl. And I assume Tyler Hoechlin has other responsibilities that keep him from being on call whenever the Supergirl producers want to use him. Guest actors have to get lots of different gigs to earn a living and thus aren't always available on demand -- which is presumably why last night was the first time in 10 months that we've seen Vasquez at the DEO.
Wait, I just thought of something: did I mishear/misunderstand, or did Coville say he got his Reign intel from a defrocked Kryptonian priest or something from Fort Rozz? So does this mean there's another unknown Kryptonian survivor on Earth somewhere?
Yeah, that was a bit of a WTF moment. Kara doesn't seem to care much about other survivors from Krypton.
Maybe there was, but they could've been sent out into space with Fort Rozz and Non's army of Kryptonians at the end of the first season.
Anyway, it was just starting to bug me that all the alien refugees that were on Earth last season have apparently not been mentioned at all this season. So I was glad that this episode at least touched on the idea that they exist, with Coville's mention of the priest and Kara's visit to the alien bar to see if anyone there recognized the symbol (though that got sidetracked by Mon-El and Imra).
^ Something about the way Coville spoke about this person gave me the impression they weren't a member of Astra and Non's army, though admittedly I've got nothing concrete to support that.
But, re: National City's alien population, I have missed both Lyra and Brian this season.
But, re: National City's alien population, I have missed both Lyra and Brian this season.
Maybe said army hunted that priest down and killed him as a heretic. Although that means Coville would've had to find him during the roughly 9-month period between Kara saving the plane and Supergirl lifting Fort Rozz into space.
That bit got me too. In the first season aliens were a new thing, and they were by and large all from Fort Rozz or related to that prison, unless they were Martians. In the second season they were suddenly everywhere, to the point of being almost commonplace (which I get was part of the worldbuilding, but still seemed pretty abrupt). Now they've vanished again and the aliens-only bar from last year seems to have morphed into a standard dive joint. Even during last week's crossover, the DEO Scoobies seemed almost surprised that the Dominator was even an alien threat, which they'd been dealing with almost weekly up till last season's finale.
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You could be right. It's a big flaw in the show because it seems the writers believe that in order to make women look good, men have to look bad. If you took some of the anti-male dialogue on the show and reversed the genders, it would be the most sexist show on television. But there should be some security in the character. I compare Supergirl's show to Wonder Woman's movie, and while are about a great female hero, they don't have to make a man look weak to make Wonder Woman look strong. But on Supergirl, it's the opposite. Lots of man hating on that show. I wish it were different because when the show just focuses on Supergirl, it's terrific.
Supergirl is an amazing character--a female Superman. She shares his good nature and warmth. It doesn't make her less of a hero if Superman is more powerful. Superman is the A list, top dog.
And on a show called Supergirl, Superman should only come in when the stakes are extremely high. A situation where it makes sense for Supergirl to need help. For example, an army of aliens invade, Supergirl will need help. Superman may be the most powerful hero out there, but he's still just one guy. That's why he needs the Justice League. That's why Flash can't do everything for Arrow.
Supergirl SHOULD beat the baddie. But they wrote a story that really makes the absence of Superman look suspicious. Even Jon didn't bother to help her.
I could buy that one. The aliens had been there underground all along, and once President Marsdin signed the amnesty act, they were able to come out in the open. It's like how some people online wonder where all the transgender people "suddenly came from." They've always been here, they can just be more open about it now.
That's why I'm glad they established that Kara went there specifically to ask around for alien knowledge. Although I didn't notice any extras with alien makeup in the crowd.
No, they seemed to take its alienness in stride, since they were musing about what kind of alien it might be (including "Czarnian," the show's second implied Lobo reference).
It's true, though, that they've been dealing with mostly terrestrial threats this year -- Bloodsport, Psi, Coville's cult, Morgan Edge -- except for their trip to Mars, and now the Legion ship.
And there has been spoiler news revealing that...
the second episode in January will be called "Fort Rozz," and there will be an "Amazonian" alien called a Tormock appearing as a prisoner, though not necessarily in the same episode. And the Arrowverse Wiki claims that Lyra will be in more episodes this season than last, though there's no sign of that so far.
Yeah Reigns costume looks like something made in the 90s
Horrible!
No continuity. That, and as mentioned yesterday, the origin of the Legion has been altered from the comic source.
I don't see it as a real union. Somewhere along the way, I expect Lena will cross some line that James cannot stand for (criminal, etc.), or he will only be used as wedge between Kara and Lena when he's forced to choose a side in some conflict.
That is the great failing of this series, as its buried in a misandrist agenda, painting a world where only women either hold any position of power, while all males are reduced to weaker positions (in any category), hence the one time in film history where Superman has been reduced to a weaker, indecisive third leg, with Winn stammering through life, easily rattled/threatened, and James...well that's another story.
Notice how this kind of unrealistic one-sided "world building" was not necessary in Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice / Justice League, where Wonder Woman did not need to be made superior to Superman in order to appear powerful/wise. Like the comics, female characters stand out like all others, but not at the expense of male characters. The same applies to the MCU, where characters such as Wanda and Valkyrie are formidable--but they operate on their own terms, defining themselves, without any need for the producers to constantly reduce their male counterparts to weak and or ineffectual background players in an attempt to raise their profiles as heroines or characters of importance. .
I would not be at all surprised.
Not only Superman, but J'onn as well. Yes, this is only "round one" in the Reign plot, but J'onn completely out of the conflict was a typical example of what you observed about this series. One of the reasons why this version of DC characters are barely taken seriously. Either the characters are the characters, or they are a pack of "in name only" bit players.
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