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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

Well, now "Snapper" is dissing and undermining Jimmy...definitely not the lovable curmudgeon. Take him out, Jimbo!

Wow...Lynda's acting has gotten worse in 40 years--Her delivery is awful.

They made Mon-El his actual name? That loses points for this Legion geek.
 
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  • Supergirl failed to save those secret service agents. Then they ran when the President was attacked at the signing.
  • That bar looked like somewhere Lobo might show up eventually.
  • Supergirl did the Wonder Woman twirl.
  • Alex found a potential girlfriend, Kara found a potential boyfriend and J'onn found someone too.
  • Who was the redhead?
  • What's up with the President?
 
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  • Alex found a potential girlfriend, Kara found a potential boyfriend
I think Kara found a potential girlfriend too...she has more chemistry with Lena.

  • Who was the redhead?
I was thinking maybe Inferno (another Legion-connected character), but I didn't catch any identifying references.

  • What's up with the President?
I think the takeaway there is that she's an alien. (Which doesn't forgive her horrible delivery, because she's supposed to have posed successfully enough as a human to become president.)
 
Early interviews with Producer said he was on Krypton before it exploded. Hence being in a Kryptonian Pod. Maybe Mon-El is not his real name. No reason to be in ship from Krypton if he never was there.
 
Why would he adapt a Kryptonian name when he has such a chip on his shoulder about Kryptonians? Plus, if it was supposed to be a Kryptonian name, Kara would have noticed that.
 
"Welcome to Earth"--

Kara: there a difference between between being hopeful and naive. She was the latter in the extreme in this episode. But in the very loud plot device, she had to realize she--for all of her self-righteous support of Marsdin--is the episode's biggest hypocrite with her racist statements about the lost Daximite.

Hank: His reasoning should not be dismissed--using the experience of living as a black man as an example to sell his point on the still relevant, still powerful cancer of racism in society was effective and undeniable. Make no mistake: he was not arguing in favor or discrimination or segregation, but pointing out that he's aware that even in the 21st century, there's no easy assimilation in societies with so structured and promoted social and institutional racism as the allegedly "United" States.

Megan Morse--Miss Martian. Interesting.

James: Carr telling James to "make your own mark" seems like a THE BIG leading remark to James' life not only at work, but his (eventual) move to a costumed identity--to step out of being "just" some costumed person's pal. For the moment, he's a sidelined character.

Carr: He zeroed in on Kara's biased approach instantly; she's proving her inexperience in separating personal belief from objectivity.

Marsdin: Alien Amnesty Act. The writers had no idea, but her flowery language about the Statue of Liberty and America's "welcoming" nature comes off like certain Republican politicians who love trumpeting that..while forgetting that this is the same nation with a history of slavery (among other abominable acts), and long after the completion of the SoL, still treated millions of its citizens as less than human. In other words, the nation has a long, terrible rap sheet.

However, with Marsdin being an alien, once her true identity is exposed (and probably spearheading a new threat), I expect Cadmus to blow this season wide open--and clearly will play into the dialogue about alien citizenship.

"You should see my other jet" Ha-ha. That was cute. She should performed the Wonder Woman spin, then wink at the camera...

Mon El: Not much to him at this point, but the quick thawing of "El" ice seems like a romance set up with Kara.

Maggie: Come on--aiming a gun at an alien with that kind of power? That's like all of the fools who insist on shooting at Captain America's shield. They should know better.

Luthor:
Alien detection device. Yes, we all know how the more famous Luthor resents aliens, but like many elements of this plot, this was over the top, and rather childish.

Best scene of the episode: Miss Martian's debut.

NOTES:

"How did anyone even vote for that guy"


Enough with the sloppy, beyond obvious attacks on all things Trump. We get it. That bloated idiot needs no help dancing on quicksand of his own making.The showrunners are so obsessed with their contempt for anything out of their sociopolitical worldview, that its use in this episode was as subtle as a rocket-propelled anvil through a window.
 
This was terrific. I was afraid that the show would lose its social-commentary angle on The CW, given how the other DC shows have generally avoided it. But this was the most blatant immigrant-rights/anti-racism allegory yet. It's reassuring that the show's still got it. (Although it is feeling pretty Vancouvery. That dome shows up everywhere. Last season it was the Time Masters' HQ.)

It even gives Supergirl some feet of clay with her unexamined racism toward Daxamites. That was a bit heavy-handed, but it got the point across.

Meanwhile, after a season on CBS without any LGBT characters in the show, we get Maggie Sawyer portrayed overtly as lesbian from the start -- and having clear romantic tension with Alex from the very moment they meet. That seems like a change for the better.

An unexpected touch -- when Kara told Mon-El that his world and hers were both dead, Blake Neely's music quoted John Williams's Krypton theme. That's the first time this show has quoted Williams directly, although Neely's Flash scores have quoted Shirley Walker's Trickster theme.


Wow...Lynda's acting has gotten worse in 40 years--Her delivery is awful.

That's what I thought at first, but I think maybe she was emulating Hillary Clinton's speaking style.


  • Supergirl failed to save those secret service agents.
Yeah, it bugged me that they got the redshirt treatment, their deaths ignored. But I guess Supergirl had to prioritize looking for the attacker, trying to protect everyone. The mystery is why she couldn't see the attacker.

And "You should see my other jet."

  • What's up with the President?

She's a secret alien herself. Although I'm not sure I like that twist, because it's kind of Birther-ish.
 
I think the takeaway there is that she's an alien. (Which doesn't forgive her horrible delivery, because she's supposed to have posed successfully enough as a human to become president.)

Her delivery was bad, unnatural and offputting enough to remind me of Hillary Clinton (whom I support in preference to her opponent), which would make a whole lot of sense as an acting choice.

"Monel," I think, because that name's going to be familiar to the greatest number of fans.
 
"You should see my other jet" Ha-ha.
Would have been funny if she hadn't stumbled all over it.

That's what I thought at first, but I think maybe she was emulating Hillary Clinton's speaking style.
Badly, perhaps.

Her delivery was bad, unnatural and offputting enough to remind me of Hillary Clinton
Hillary may be wanting in the charisma department, but she doesn't talk like Earth is her second planet.
 
As a comics fan I did a bit of a spit take at Kara explaining that Daxam was a sister world in the same solar system as Krypton along with it being destroyed. They basically made it Remus to Krypton's Romulus.
 
I'm a bit surprised by how little direct interaction Kara and the President had. Their first conversation happened offscreen between scenes, and they didn't really talk much until the end.

It also seems like a bit of a retcon that there are so many aliens on Earth. Last season, they all seemed to be Ft. Rozz escapees. I assume many of them still are, but apparently there are alien immigrants and refugees coming to Earth on a regular basis, like in Men in Black. I wonder why Earth is so popular.

Anyway, it helps demonstrate the value of keeping Supergirl's universe separate from the other shows. This is the alternate Earth with the aliens, which makes it distinct from Earth-1.
 
Lar Gand = Garland = Judy Garland = Friend of Dorothy = Gay.

Problem with that is precrisis, I remember Mon-El having a girlfriend, but Lar Gand is post crisis, so I can't have been the first person to connect the dots?
 
Lar Gand = Garland = Judy Garland = Friend of Dorothy = Gay.

Problem with that is precrisis, I remember Mon-El having a girlfriend, but Lar Gand is post crisis, so I can't have been the first person to connect the dots?
Lar Gand was always his real name, going back to the Silver Age (though apparently not to his first appearance in Superboy #89, 1961). And his girlfriend was Shadow Las (a.k.a. Tasmia Mallor).
 
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So, I assume "El" is meaningless in this continuity. It's not a family name. Otherwise, the character wouldn't be called Mon-El right off the bat. He would be called Lar Gand until adopted by the House of El.
 
Weird action sequences here. Already mentioned, the roasting of those poor agents...but How could Supergirl not see the fireballs hurling towards the Prez until they reach the podium?! And burn the document right in front or her? With Madame Heat Wave on the ground, those had to be thrown at an arc, so how could someone hovering in the air above the event not notice?!! :rolleyes:
Sounds like nitpicking, but it was distracting enough to ding an otherwise solid-if a tad preachy, episode. Over baked action scenes are starting to weigh down these Arrowverse shows. Good action is definately fun, but its fast becoming boring....
 
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