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[F. King Daniel]

I want to read these books. I need to read these books. If any authors with to PM me their manuscripts I promise not to tell or show a soul (and…err...edit this evidence away)

Or even a sample chapter?

Anything?

 

[ClayinCA]

I'm sure that would violate all kinds of contracts. Nice try, though!

 

[snakespeare]

I have 30 years experience. I could change that catalog in one hour and have a new camera-ready PDF, plus all source packaged per printer's instructions. I know what I'm talking about.

I worked in professional publishing for 4.5 years and we would never have been able to get those sort of alterations approved in an hour, or even a week. Everything had to climb up a long ladder of command and back down again.

Ah. We are misunderstanding each other. I did not realize you were thinking the decision had to go up and down the chain of command. I thought we were talking about after the decision is made and they turn to someone like me and say "make it so". Then it's all about effort, and I can tell you, the actual effort to remove four items from the catalog one day before printing is minor.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I did not realize you were thinking the decision had to go up and down the chain of command.

I was thinking that because it is likely to be true.

You asked why the pages couldn't be pulled because a week was plenty of time. Obviously it wasn't.

Of course it doesn''t take long to rejig a PDF. If you weren't dealing with a chain of command and the many protocols associated with tie-in licensing contracts.

 

[snakespeare]

Actually I was proposing the fact of the catalog as evidence that this decision came AFTER the catalog was released. I was only using it to establish the timeline. Those who proposed that it was a financial decision on the part of Pocket Books would have to explain why they would allow the catalog to come out one day before their announcement, OR why they would wait until the day after the catalog came out to announce their decision. The reason given was that the catalog is hard to change, which it is not.

 

[Captain Robert April]

Well, there is the time lag produced by the physical production of the catalogs, shipping them out to retailers, etc. There's a point of no return in this sort of thing.

 

[snakespeare]

It's hard to imagine that the deciders at S&S didn't get to review the catalog. The printer only cares that they get their camera-ready files about a day before actual printing, and the rest might take a week or so. So, really, the fact of the announcement following so closely on the heels of the catalog means to me that the catalog must have had something to do with it. Someone who didn't read the catalog before it went out, who had weight to throw around, must have seen the catalog. And it can't have been someone at S&S because they would have known sooner... just a guess, anyway. Besides, so far S&S is losing money, and that's ... that's ... inconceivable!

 

[JD]

Yeah, but anybody who has the power to pull the books probably would have known about them long before the catalog came out. I think the books have been in the planning stages pretty much since the movie came out in US theaters, if not before.

 

[Snaploud]

Man, I go away for a few months and all literary hell breaks loose.

Other than the book postponements, how's everybody been?

--Ted

*sky falling*

We've been doing well. How about you?

*dives out of the way of falling debris*

*hears the cries of former Trek writers begging for food*

 

[Therin of Andor]

Well, there is the time lag produced by the physical production of the catalogs, shipping them out to retailers, etc.

They don't necessarily get shipped out any more. That's why it's an online PDF. The catalogue can be read online by shop managers and orders are made online.

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, but anybody who has the power to pull the books probably would have known about them long before the catalog came out. I think the books have been in the planning stages pretty much since the movie came out in US theaters, if not before.

Indeed. I got my outline approved before the movie was even released.

 

[JD]

So did you know anything more about the the movie than general public at that point, or did you just approach it as a TOS story until you actually saw the movie?

 

[Christopher]

Let's just say that Margaret apprised me of the specifics I needed to know to construct an outline in the movie continuity. Once I actually saw the movie, I was able to refine my ideas from the outline to make them more accurate to the film.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Let's just say that Margaret apprised me of the specifics I needed to know to construct an outline in the movie continuity. Once I actually saw the movie, I was able to refine my ideas from the outline to make them more accurate to the film.

In other words, she violated her NDA.

 

[Captain Robert April]

"Need to know."

 

[Allyn Gibson]

"Need to know."

I strenuously doubt that Christopher would have been covered by Margaret's NDA.

Look, I'm not wailing on Margaret here. At least she tried.

 

[snakespeare]

Ummm... he probably had to sign an NDA of his own.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Then he would have said so. Christopher is nothing if not precise.

 

[Christopher]

Well, let's face it, most of the key points of the movie's story could be pieced together from the various previews and spoilers that were available to the public before the film came out.

 

[DEWLine]

Let's just say that Margaret apprised me of the specifics I needed to know to construct an outline in the movie continuity. Once I actually saw the movie, I was able to refine my ideas from the outline to make them more accurate to the film.

In other words, she violated her NDA.

I'll second that "need to know". Christopher had a legitimate need, and editors and licensing bosses would understand the circumstances involved.