Summer nuTrek novels pulled-TrekMovie.Com

[Christopher]

^Well, look at it this way: if the books had been halted at an earlier stage, we wouldn't have gotten paid for them. So it could be worse.

And I've written tons of stuff that never saw print. Every writer does -- it's part of the learning process. So you get used to it. You chalk it up to experience and move on to the next thing. And you keep the unpublished stuff in a drawer (or these days, a directory on your hard drive) and maybe get to cannibalize it for ideas later on. Although that's probably not a good idea in this case, since there's a chance these books may still see print eventually.

 

[Lonemagpie]

so what fills the gap, if it is possible?

Summarising from earlier in the thread, apparently it may amount to TPB omnibuses for SCE: Out of the Cocoon and What's Past, and Star Trek: Starfleet Academy Untitled Paperback #1 (comprising books 1-3), then probably the first Typhon Pact book brought forward a month- but even if that's the case (and I'm only summarising comments from earlier, I don't *know* anything) it'd still leave a gap to be plugged later in the year...

 

[DarkHorizon]

Oh, that would actually be pretty cool if you're right. I've been hoping the YA Academy books would get reissued in MMPB or TPB form someday, since I never got to read most of them the first time around.

Yeah, it always surprised me that the first three weren't rereleased as a collection once New Frontier got going.

I understand and agree with the logic of holding off on those nuTrek novels, but they never should have let those novels get this far in the production process. It's a nightmare for the publishers, the editors, the writers, and the fans who were looking forward to these novels. I particularly feel for the writers. It's must be tough to think that your work may never reach bookstores.

To be honest, I don't think it's going to be a case of these novels vanishing for good. I suspect that once the story for Something Something gets hammered out by the Supreme Court, they'll go back on the schedule. Maybe with a few tweaks.

ETA:

Summarising from earlier in the thread, apparently it may amount to TPB omnibuses for SCE: Out of the Cocoon and What's Past, and Star Trek: Starfleet Academy Untitled Paperback #1 (comprising books 1-3), then probably the first Typhon Pact book brought forward a month- but even if that's the case (and I'm only summarising comments from earlier, I don't *know* anything) it'd still leave a gap to be plugged later in the year...

Just to clarify - there's nothing on the S&S website to say what the Starfleet Academy listing contains: the reprint of the TOS books is my speculation.

 

[CaptainDonovin]

I'm kind of surprised, you would think that if they wanted fans to get into the nuUniverse they'd want a few of these books out. I was really looking forward to these.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Oh, that would actually be pretty cool if you're right. I've been hoping the YA Academy books would get reissued in MMPB or TPB form someday, since I never got to read most of them the first time around.

Yeah, it always surprised me that the first three weren't rereleased as a collection once New Frontier got going.

Especially as John Ordover once said that they were going to be packaged together as New Frontier #0. Sometimes, things just don't work out. *shrug*

 

[Sho]

My condolences to the writers -- while my interest in the new timeline is not that great, personally, I've enjoyed several of their previous works and saw the potential for them to turn me around on the timeline (all of the authors involved certainly have stronger scifi and Trek writing chops than Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman).

But trying to see the positive side to things, I'm excited to see the SCE/CoE omnibusses getting their shot at the schedule. I'd like to see more SCE/CoE stories, so I hope they sell well. I'm going to buy them myself - these days I tend to buy the ebooks first since e-reading is more convenient for me, and then buy deadtree editions of the stuff I really liked for the collector's shelf.

 

[SGCSG1]

The real problem here is the really bad decision to wait THREE YEARS for the next movie. THREE YEARS? Talk about loosing all your momentum. At this rate they'll have to reboot the reboot someday....

 

[Paris]

Especially as John Ordover once said that they were going to be packaged together as New Frontier #0. Sometimes, things just don't work out. *shrug*

Man o Man. Ordover sure did like to do things "The Comic Bokk Way", with the whole #0 thing. I'm surprised he doesn't work for Marvel or DC

 

[Christopher]

The real problem here is the really bad decision to wait THREE YEARS for the next movie. THREE YEARS? Talk about loosing all your momentum.

Huh? That's pretty typical for a big movie series like this. The Star Wars films (both trilogies) came out at 3-year intervals. The first two Indiana Jones films were 3 years apart, the third 5 years later.

 

[Paris]

^Besides. Do you want another Transformers 2? That's what happens when things are rushed .

 

[seigezunt]

That sucks, but it kind of makes sense. I'm wondering about the timing, if it's because they just started looking at the story proposals for the next film...

I couldn't see them doing the kind of continuity-surfing they did in the early 80s, as excellent as these authors are...

So are the authors completley ripped off, or are they getting something for what they wrote?

 

[Christopher]

Nobody's been "ripped off." We met our contractual obligations to produce these manuscripts and were compensated accordingly. Beyond that point, the manuscripts are the property of CBS to do with as they choose.

 

[Thrawn]

As I understand it, you wouldn't get any more money from the book anyway unless the royalties from sales exceeded your original advance, right? And that's pretty unlikely. Am I remembering correctly?

 

[seigezunt]

Nobody's been "ripped off." We met our contractual obligations to produce these manuscripts and were compensated accordingly.

I'm relieved to read that.

 

[snakespeare]

I'm kind of surprised, you would think that if they wanted fans to get into the nuUniverse they'd want a few of these books out. I was really looking forward to these.

The whole question of the "nuUniverse" is speculation. The writers have not written the screenplay for ST XII, yet. Pulling the plug on these books doesn't mean it is true or false, but it does mean the writers / producers (who are one and the same people) have not decided what they want to do yet. And they do not want to be locked into anything based on the novels.

So I will not assume there is a "nuUniverse".

 

[Greg Cox]

As I understand it, you wouldn't get any more money from the book anyway unless the royalties from sales exceeded your original advance, right? And that's pretty unlikely. Am I remembering correctly?

That's indeed how it works.

 

[DigificWriter]

I'm kind of surprised, you would think that if they wanted fans to get into the nuUniverse they'd want a few of these books out. I was really looking forward to these.

The whole question of the "nuUniverse" is speculation. The writers have not written the screenplay for ST XII, yet. Pulling the plug on these books doesn't mean it is true or false, but it does mean the writers / producers (who are one and the same people) have not decided what they want to do yet. And they do not want to be locked into anything based on the novels.

So I will not assume there is a "nuUniverse".

The thing is, as far as I understand licensed fiction, Abrams and Co. wouldn't be locked into anything even if the novels were being published as scheduled, which is why I ain't buying the explanation that was released for pulling the novels from the schedule.

 

[snakespeare]

^I am just saying, we have assumed there is a nuUniverse based on the fact that they gave the OK to go forward with the novels. There has been no other evidence aside from rumors. They pulled the plug, so we no longer have any reason to assume there is a "nuUniverse", even if we don't buy the official statement.

 

[JoeP]

I'm kind of surprised, you would think that if they wanted fans to get into the nuUniverse they'd want a few of these books out. I was really looking forward to these.

The whole question of the "nuUniverse" is speculation. The writers have not written the screenplay for ST XII, yet. Pulling the plug on these books doesn't mean it is true or false, but it does mean the writers / producers (who are one and the same people) have not decided what they want to do yet. And they do not want to be locked into anything based on the novels.

So I will not assume there is a "nuUniverse".

The thing is, as far as I understand licensed fiction, Abrams and Co. wouldn't be locked into anything even if the novels were being published as scheduled, which is why I ain't buying the explanation that was released for pulling the novels from the schedule.

They may be not be forcefully locked into adhering to whatever the novels establish, but perhaps they want to adhere to them. That's a good sign in my book, and I don't mind the wait if that's the case. Maybe they want to work closer with Pocket once details of the sequel's script are finalized...

 

[Ssosmcin]

I actually can understand why they wouldn't want to be putting out so much NuTrek stories this early in the game. Letting the movies take care of the continuity right now is a good idea. This eliminates the possibility of Trek's versions of "Splinter in the Mind's Eye." Good story, but one that is next to impossible to justify within established continuity. It kind of like being back in the 60's, when there weren't a plethora of Trek novels being done.

However, it would have been grand if they thought of this sort of thing before everything work got this far, and just said they would still only have Pre-Abrams Trek based novels for the time being. No major fan hopes dashed. The authors are fine. As stated, they got paid, gained another manuscript's worth of experience, will probably see the books published eventually, and are looking to the next porject. But the fans, I can understand being disappointed.