Or Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Sulu's daughter: WTF? (Generations)
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Gay people can be parents, too, you know.
One night stands with the other sex, in vitro fertilizations, surrogate pregnancies, just plain adoptions and, in the Star Trek universe, direct DNA mixing and manipulations can give an homosexual couple plenty of children.
And besides just because George Takei is gay, does not necessarily mean that Hikaru Sulu is gay (not that there's anything wrong with that).
That's why they call it "acting."
Ditto.
Only those with gaydar.
Anyway, by the original poster's logic, Hiro Nakamura's dad would also be gay. Thus invalidating one of the best SF characters on TV right now. Shame, shame!
But going by SENSIBLE logic, one COULD argue that Sulu was never married as he was never seen with a wedding ring. This does not rule out his ever having a child or a family, or by the simple fact that almost no one in Trek wears a wedding band regardless of marital status. Heck, I think only Paris and Torres actually did. In any case, the vast majority of fans have no problem with Sulu, or even Chekov or Scotty or Uhura having a partner and offspring at SOME point... There was an excellent 80s comic (written by Peter David) that details Scotty's marriage and divorce. And looking at the final scenes of the fan-written, Takei-acted "World Enough and Time" you can see that Takei has no problem portraying Sulu as a loving husband, father and grandfather.
Mark <--- Portrayed Takei's surrogate son when he was at the Calgary Comic Expo, 2008
Anyway, by the original poster's logic, Hiro Nakamura's dad would also be gay. Thus invalidating one of the best SF characters on TV right now. Shame, shame!
But going by SENSIBLE logic, one COULD argue that Sulu was never married as he was never seen with a wedding ring. This does not rule out his ever having a child or a family, or by the simple fact that almost no one in Trek wears a wedding band regardless of marital status. Heck, I think only Paris and Torres actually did. In any case, the vast majority of fans have no problem with Sulu, or even Chekov or Scotty or Uhura having a partner and offspring at SOME point... There was an excellent 80s comic (written by Peter David) that details Scotty's marriage and divorce. And looking at the final scenes of the fan-written, Takei-acted "World Enough and Time" you can see that Takei has no problem portraying Sulu as a loving husband, father and grandfather.
Mark <--- Portrayed Takei's surrogate son when he was at the Calgary Comic Expo, 2008
...which presumes the custom survives to the time of TOS. I don't think there's any indication of that in TOS.
Besides, my father has never worn a wedding ring, though my parents have been married for a very long time.
My fiancee and I have no particular religious affiliation, and yet we're going nuts over choosing wedding bands. QED. 
I can easily accpet though that Sulu simply doesn't wear a wedding ring, as nor did Sisko (either time he was married). OTOH, I have had bosses who don't wear their rings simply because they don't fit them anymore.
Mark
I can easily accpet though that Sulu simply doesn't wear a wedding ring, as nor did Sisko (either time he was married). OTOH, I have had bosses who don't wear their rings simply because they don't fit them anymore.
Mark
Starfleet Regulation 5234.3(a): Due to the tendency of helm and related consoles to discharge stray electrical impulses, catch fire, blow up real good or otherwise pose an unacceptable hazzard to human and other life, personnel manning such consoles shall refrain from wearing any metallic adornment.
Not just that, but it assumes Sulu married Demora's mother.
That, however, I consider a justified assumption. After all, the purpose of the scene and the character was to establish that Sulu had a life where Kirk did not. Kirk, too, had women and children in his life - what he didn't have was a wife, and a child with that wife.
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
Kirk always seemed to place his career above all else, until maybe he finally retired from Starfleet.
It's also possible that Demora was a mono-genetic offspring, much like Nicholas Ewing Seafort in the Seafort Hope novels, who was made entirely of the genetic material of Hikaru Sulu and placed into a surrogate mother. Perhaps, Sulu wanted a child but not a marriage. This doesn't make the character gay like the actor. Just someone who choose to be a single parent instead of opting for marriage. Or he adopted her.
I dunno, just woolgathering on the subject. Nevertheless, I enjoyed PAD's take on Demora and how she came to be in Sulu's life. My favorite part is when Sulu says, "We just did it once." And Chekov says, "It only takes one time." It's a gag that gets repeated throughout the novel.
I dunno, just woolgathering on the subject. Nevertheless, I enjoyed PAD's take on Demora and how she came to be in Sulu's life. My favorite part is when Sulu says, "We just did it once." And Chekov says, "It only takes one time." It's a gag that gets repeated throughout the novel.
Actually it was a hell of an idea.
Read the novel that is based after Generations and focuses on th reaction of Sulu and his daughter after Kirk's passing.
Pretty good story.
I can see how it would have work, Sulu might have been on a starship, but that did not keep him from seetting aside time for having a family of his own.
If I quote: Kirk and Scotty's discussion on Enterprise B.
Kirk: "When did Mr Sulu set aside to have a family."
Scotty: "You always said, if something is important to you, you make the time."
Backround that a few people know.
Sulu was a protege of Kirk while on the 5 year mission and later Decker in the motion picture.
Sulu moved up quickly in the ranks after star trek tmp and was on a temporary assignment for Kirk (as an admiral) to help those kids steer during the trainining cruise.
He was assigned to Excelsior until kirk requested him for three weeks. After the mess in ST3-4 when they went into exile and saved Earth with humpback whales, Sulu was aquited of the charges except for Kirk but still had to wait and keep his nose clear to get back his command. thats why he was still helmsman of enterprise during ST5:
During that time, he could have settled down to have a family and a daughter. He had alot of time there for a spell to accomplish it.
Like Riker:
Kirk has women in his life.
Letsee Ruth (Shore leave), Dr. Marcus, The green broad, Martia (from the klingon prison planet), The broad from outside the great barrier (by any other name (original series episode), The captain's woman broad from (Mirror Mirror), and some rumors say that he and spock had something going.
See The motion picture novel Spock considered him a friend, in vulcan the term also was used as Lover... Makes ya wonder
What can i say... Kirk was just a He-Hoe.
Shieet... Diamond Jim Kirk, Gigalo Captain of the Enterprise.
Marta (Yvonne Craig) was the green Orion in the insane asylum (TOS).
Martia (Iman) was the yellow-eyed, shapeshifting chameloid in ST VI.
TheLonelySquire
Vice Admiral
Gay people can be parents, too, you know.
One night stands with the other sex, in vitro fertilizations, surrogate pregnancies, just plain adoptions and, in the Star Trek universe, direct DNA mixing and manipulations can give an homosexual couple plenty of children.
Sulu had IVF? Sweet!
