Stupid reviews, incorrect info, dumb rumors over the years...

[Delta1]

There was a rumour that the last episode of TNG s6 was going to involve the E-D being recalled to earth to be decommissioned and renamed as the 'Queen mary', along the way there was to be a battle, inh which the stardrive is destroyed, and the saucer was to crash land on a planet a la GEN.

anyone else remember this/add anything too it?

CDP

I read somewhere--possibly the "making of" section in the Generations novelization--that the idea was considered. The Enterprise's mission of exploration was to be ended, and she was to be recalled to Earth to serve as something like an official liner in the core Federation worlds, a Starfleet yacht carrying around admirals and diplomats. The Queen Mary was probably brought up as a comparison, but I don't think they were going to rename it. On their way home, there was a battle, the ship would separate, and the saucer would crash a la GEN.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

There was a rumour that the last episode of TNG s6 was going to involve the E-D being recalled to earth to be decommissioned and renamed as the 'Queen mary', along the way there was to be a battle, inh which the stardrive is destroyed, and the saucer was to crash land on a planet a la GEN.

anyone else remember this/add anything too it?

CDP

I read somewhere--possibly the "making of" section in the Generations novelization--that the idea was considered. The Enterprise's mission of exploration was to be ended, and she was to be recalled to Earth to serve as something like an official liner in the core Federation worlds, a Starfleet yacht carrying around admirals and diplomats. The Queen Mary was probably brought up as a comparison, but I don't think they were going to rename it. On their way home, there was a battle, the ship would separate, and the saucer would crash a la GEN.

Uh... horrible idea. The Enterprise-D had only been in service for about six years at that point. The original Enterprise (that is the NCC-1701, not the NX-01) was decomissioned after several decades in service. Why should anyone in Starfleet Command come up with the idea of turning their relatively new and state-of-the-art flagship into a luxury liner? And it isn't that like re-assigning one of the current aircraft carriers to passenger ship service? Well, it's good that they didn't actually implement this idea...

 

[Forbin]

Obviously Curtiss never read the part about Saavik being HALF-ROMULAN. Saavik was supposed to have emotions -- emotions expressed by her Romulan influence, but that her Vulcan mentors had taught her to try to suppress.

She was told by Director Nimoy NOT to watch ST II, not to be influenced by Vonda McIntyre's take on Saavik in the ST II novelization, and to play all her lines "Colder, say it colder".

Nimoy deliberately chose to deviate around the concept that Saavik was half Romulan. Since the one line in ST II that mentioned her hybrid heritage was dropped anyway, it wasn't a problem to rethink the character as a full Vulcan.

You can't blame Curtis for the way she was directed. Unless you also hated her Romulan/Vulcan portrayal in TNG's "Gambit"?

Well said.
I had the same negative thoughts about Curtiss until I heard the explanation about Nimoy directing her that way. And as she said at a con I attended, "Who was I to argue with THE Vulcan?" She really won me over during her talk, too. In the end I found her a bright, delightful, friendly, lovely person.

I have to say I still prefer Kirsty as Saavik, but I have no ill will toward Robin for things that weren't her fault.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Canon includes the Animated Series.

1. No.

2. Who would care? It's a cartoon.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

There was a rumour that the last episode of TNG s6 was going to involve the E-D being recalled to earth to be decommissioned and renamed as the 'Queen mary', along the way there was to be a battle, inh which the stardrive is destroyed, and the saucer was to crash land on a planet a la GEN.

anyone else remember this/add anything too it?

CDP

I read somewhere--possibly the "making of" section in the Generations novelization--that the idea was considered. The Enterprise's mission of exploration was to be ended, and she was to be recalled to Earth to serve as something like an official liner in the core Federation worlds, a Starfleet yacht carrying around admirals and diplomats. The Queen Mary was probably brought up as a comparison, but I don't think they were going to rename it. On their way home, there was a battle, the ship would separate, and the saucer would crash a la GEN.

IIRC, that was the initial idea around the Season Six cliffhanger, "Descent," which didn't even feature the Borg, Lore or Huge. Hence, the title as in the descent of the saucer.

 

[Timewalker]

Canon includes the Animated Series.

1. No.

2. Who would care? It's a cartoon.

Okay, I get that you don't care for the Animated Series. You don't think of it as "real" Star Trek.

But it's every bit as valid as TOS -- simply because it was made. AT THE TIME, it had Gene Roddenberry's stamp of approval. Some of the stories were clunkers, granted. But others were damn good, and would have made fine additions to the live-action series.

BTW, the "just a cartoon" dismissal is something I could make of the various anime shows people seem to take so seriously. To me they're "just cartoons." And to me, Superman (and most superheroes) are "just comics." Doesn't mean they're not a legitimate part of whatever series they're from.

 

[Therin of Andor]

But it's every bit as valid as TOS -- simply because it was made. AT THE TIME, it had Gene Roddenberry's stamp of approval. Some of the stories were clunkers, granted. But others were damn good, and would have made fine additions to the live-action series.

Yes, but as the franchise got broader and broader with the arrival of TNG, the mandate about the licensed ST tie-ins not considering TAS to be canon came in a Star Trek Office memo. It applied from 1989 until Roddenberry's death in 1991, but continued to affect some manuscripts that were approved earlier. TAS hadn't been seen on TV by many of ST's new fans, nor even the writers of TNG. It was an obscure ten hours or so of ST most people didn't even know existed.

Back in 1989, Filmation was being dissolved as a production house, the rights to their back catalog were in a state of flux, and it was easier - red tape-wise - to eliminate possible problems getting licensed ST material approved by simply decanonizing TAS. Paramount didn't necessarily own TAS outright at the time.

Essentially, TAS seems to be back in acceptance, with many references to TAS characters, locales and events turning up in recent ST novels, comics and new HD CGI for TOS. But there's never been a definitive statement restoring it to "the canon".