Spoilers Stranger Things - Season 3

[jaime]

DARYL...awful.

Return to Oz...how on earth would the legendary Walter Murch dare to make a sequel to The Wizard of Oz and think it had a chance at success/similar cultural appeal?

Because the book had a lot of sequels? Because it wasn’t really a sequel as such but kinda was in what would now call a sort of reboot way? In this way it’s really much more of adaptation (mostly of Ozma of Oz, with added bits.)
And it must work eventually, because for the last decade or so everyone seems to have their underwear of choice either twisted, bunched, knotted or simply moist over Wicked. By everyone of course I just mean a bunch of noisy people. I never got round to it myself.

 

[jaime]

Unlike the tendency to drag every nearly franchise through the sequel/prequel/spin-off dirt until what once made it unique is lost forever, Stranger Things should have a natural end. Put it on the shelf. Leave it alone. Oh, and whatever serves as the series coda, I hope it ends on a positive note for the kids (in other words, no Stand By Me-type ending to depress viewers) that plays into who they are, not refer to some dark and/or wacky future that seems out of left field.

There’s already Prequel novels.

 

[jaime]

It is just some things I keep hearing or seeing in some of those clickbait youtube channels. I don't think I am spelling them right. The upside is snowflake and npc seems to have faded away. Speaking of this stuff could someone explain the thumbnails with people they hate having laser eyes? I don't get the insult. Jason

Urban dictionary is...being confusing about it. On the one hand it’s a short brown person, on the other it appears to be complimentary. Perhaps it is a daft way of saying Wham, combined with the now traditional lengthened dyamnnnnn.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

There’s already Prequel novels.

Novels are not the series--the real source. The average Stranger Things audience member is--more than likely--not reading ancillary material. For them, the series is their only focus, and that's where there should be no filmed sequels/prequels, spin-offs, etc.

 

[JD]

You know, the more I think about this, I'll go one better & say that if I were the Duffers, I'd be pushing to get a Stranger Things major motion picture cinema franchise... right. now.

And what I mean by that, is that instead of how the show is a period piece set in the 80s, it would be set right now, with flashbacks to the era when they were kids, setting up the events that will be resolved in the movie(s). So you'd cast older versions of the younger cast, & the premise would be that they are still fighting the fight, so many years later, & the twist would be that the upsidedown isn't an alternate dimensional plane at all, but rather the future, a future where they've seen the world ravaged by the Mindflayer… but in context... it's our present day, & that's how the movie would begin. Fade in to a time stamp heading "Present Day", & they are living in the Upsidedown now

You could call the movie Stranger Things Now. However, I'd want them all to be badasses, seeing how they'd have been fighting it all of their lives. So yeah, Dustin would be Jason Momoa. Will could be Jake Gyllenhaal, Lucas could be Idris Elba & Mike could be Adrien Brody. Maybe Kate Beckinsale or Natalie Portman for Eleven or something... & you know take it up a notch! Go big or go home lol

I don't really like this idea at all.
My ideal way to tie things up would be to give these characters a solid happy ending at the end of either next season or Season 5, depending on how far they go. I would then jump ahead for just one or two little scenes at the end, that just shows us where everyone ended up, and makes it clear that whatever they do at the end of the '80s story had stopped everything, and their lives from that point on had been normal. Then the very, very last shot would be Mike and Elle's teenage daughter wandering into the basement of the new building that has been built where Hawkins Lab, and starring at a wall that then just barely starts to crack.
If they decide to do anything to continue the franchise, they could then use that as a starting point for a sequel series following Elle Jr. and the other character's kids, with them as supporting characters.

 

[Nerys Myk]

They could do a prequel set in the Fifties, starring the adult characters as teens

 

[jaime]

Novels are not the series--the real source. The average Stranger Things audience member is--more than likely--not reading ancillary material. For them, the series is their only focus, and that's where there should be no filmed sequels/prequels, spin-offs, etc.

I don’t think we know that about the audience yet. For example my sister has only just started Getting into it after years of me suggesting it to her. She has no real geeky history as such, but embraced it with GoT and to a greater extent Twin Peaks...suddenly, she’s binge watched two seasons, bought the books, and is now buying import three musketeers bars to eat while watching the new series.

Demand for D&D after the first series led to a special Stranger Things edition being released.

We don’t know how this is going down basically.

 

[jaime]

I don't really like this idea at all.
My ideal way to tie things up would be to give these characters a solid happy ending at the end of either next season or Season 5, depending on how far they go. I would then jump ahead for just one or two little scenes at the end, that just shows us where everyone ended up, and makes it clear that whatever they do at the end of the '80s story had stopped everything, and their lives from that point on had been normal. Then the very, very last shot would be Mike and Elle's teenage daughter wandering into the basement of the new building that has been built where Hawkins Lab, and starring at a wall that then just barely starts to crack.
If they decide to do anything to continue the franchise, they could then use that as a starting point for a sequel series following Elle Jr. and the other character's kids, with them as supporting characters.

Nostalgia and the way it mirrors the pop culture films of that period is such a key part of the show, I can’t see that happening for a long time. Even if they had kids relatively young for people of their generation, I am not sure late nineties early noughts will have as big a nostalgia draw. Plus mobile phones ruin a ton of the old storytelling approaches you can still use in period pieces.

 

[JD]

Yeah, that was my one hesitation with the idea, I guess you could do a totally new batch of characters in '90s, but I think it would be more fun to use a follow up as a way to show what the kids from the first show are up to today.

 

[Jayson1]

If they want to keep the universe going they need to shift gears. Build a show around Steve and the new girl living in bigger but still midwestern town going to a commuity college in 1993 and make it be more about aliens than horror and monsters. Embrace the nostiga of TNG,X-Files,Indepence Day etc. The new girl would pull in the nostiga of grunge,Clerks,Pulp Fiction and the whole independent movie scene. Jason

 

[Grendelsbayne]

All but one of those have fanbases. Maybe 2, but cocoon is generally well thought of.

Random people unpacking boxes have fanbases. In many cases probably bigger ones than several of those movies.

 

[jaime]

If they want to keep the universe going they need to shift gears. Build a show around Steve and the new girl living in bigger but still midwestern town going to a commuity college in 1993 and make it be more about aliens than horror and monsters. Embrace the nostiga of TNG,X-Files,Indepence Day etc. The new girl would pull in the nostiga of grunge,Clerks,Pulp Fiction and the whole independent movie scene. Jason

They would be in about their mid to late twenties by then. You could do it with the four child leads...but that nineties stuff pulls só directly from the eighties stuff here I do t know if it would work.

 

[JD]

Random people unpacking boxes have fanbases. In many cases probably bigger ones than several of those movies.

I don't know about the mainstream, but I've see a lot of people on the nerd sites I go to talk a lot about Return to Oz.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

I don't know about the mainstream, but I've see a lot of people on the nerd sites I go to talk a lot about Return to Oz.

I don't doubt that but again, fanbases are relative (especially ones measured primarily in online chatter). And we're not even talking about RtO specifically, we're talking about a bunch of different movies all together.

 

[jaime]

I don't doubt that but again, fanbases are relative (especially ones measured primarily in online chatter). And we're not even talking about RtO specifically, we're talking about a bunch of different movies all together.

Most of which end up under ‘cult favourite’ and most of which are available in HD on iTunes. Heck...I bought cocoon in a multipack myself. I also have spacehunter. Annoyingly, no Android from 1982.

 

[JD]

Finn Wolfhard and Noah Schnapp, who play Will and Mike have addressed the "you're not interested in girls" scene, and both say that they don't think it's that he's gay, just that he's not interested yet, and just wants to hang out with his friends and play D&D.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Six episodes in. I wish the show were on a weekly rollout schedule so we could play the spec and suspense game on the same page as everyone.

 

[tomalak301]

Finn Wolfhard and Noah Schnapp, who play Will and Mike have addressed the "you're not interested in girls" scene, and both say that they don't think it's that he's gay, just that he's not interested yet, and just wants to hang out with his friends and play D&D.

This is how I saw it. I’m surprised this became an issue. Will lost a lot of his childhood being missing and then being taken over. He just wants to salvage what childhood he has left and spend time with his friends.

I just finished the season tonight and that was very good. I liked how it all came together and they learned from season 2 that Eleven is much better with the other kids than isolated.

I really liked how the characters developed this season, especially Billy, Steve and my new favorite character was Robin. The ending with Hopper’s note to Eleven was so very sad.

 

[Mojochi]

I just finished the season tonight and that was very good. I liked how it all came together and they learned from season 2 that Eleven is much better with the other kids than isolated.

More interesting to me than how it all came together (Which they're always pretty good at) is rather how it all got born. Mostly everyone got on the same page by accident this time.

Max & Eleven are pretty much just screwing around with her powers, when they happen along what Billy is up to. Mike & Will are struggling through friendship issues, that kind of bumbles them around his foreboding feelings, that usually spell danger. Nancy & Jonathan are just sneakily following up a lead that they hope will be a story they can break, about rabid rats or something. Dustin is just playing with his ham radio, trying to reach his girlfriend, when he finds the Russian code, that he ropes the others into investigating.

It's all rather random, how they connect all the dots. Nothing is as deliberate this time as it's been before... Except Joyce. Joyce is on POINT. She's like the Sarah Connor of this show now. All it took was two instances of magnets falling off her fridge, for her to be like "OK WTF is going on now?" & she just doggedly pursues that shit until she gets to the bottom of things.

Plus, no one really buys into it with her right off, thinking she's just frazzled or something. BUT THEY SHOULD BE!!! By now, after all they've been through, all these people should be poised for anything out of the ordinary. I mean come on Hop! Last year it was rotten pumpkins. Is falling magnets so much less alarming?

My favorite part of the season is when Hopper admits that Joyce is basically a better detective than him lol

 

[NCC-73515]

3 was kinda in between 1 and 2 for me as well. Much better than 2, still not as good as 1.
I like Hopper more and more, and the grand references to BTTF are amazing for me as a fan (BTTF got me started on Sci-Fi before I became a Trekkie)!
But the big scary multi-legged corpse-sludge monster was too much of a repetition, though it was well made. I liked the concept itself and how it absorbed The Things like a zombie T-1000, but it's like the big bad ships in 3 Trek movies in a row. There was nothing really new about it, so after it had absorbed The Things, it was absolutely boring, and just another monster of the season. I found the suspenseful chase scenes at the fair with Hopper and the T-750 much more compelling. They should actually cast that guy in a future Terminator, he did a great job!