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Spoilers Strange New Worlds Episode 7 - Those Old Scientists

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You haven't heard the TOS theme until uou have heard it in full bossa nova

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The Voyager theme also works really good in bossa nova

While the performers in the video did a great job, that's a no from me dawg
 
Not just any Lower Decks episode: wej Duj, which was arguably the best episode in Lower Decks history to date.

Trek was really, really lucky to have found her, and I hope Kathryn Lyn gets to be a showrunner eventually of her own series at this rate.
Yeah, she's credited as a producer on SNW so I have to assume there's a path if the streaming bubble doesn't totally collapse and Star Trek continues for a while.

It's funny because it's like how TNG developed all these people, but happening in such a compressed time when you consider that to get to this point, there was only a few seasons of Discovery and Picard.
 
Well, that doesn’t really fly with the C to the D. Or the nil to the A, for that matter. Or the Defiant to the Defiant-A. And on and on.

Ships often replace their parts, so their could be damage old parts from destroyed ships say the Defiant and Enterprises A and C in storage or a junkyard that could be reduced to raw materials and added to the next version. Or they could just use debris from the destroyed ship.

I love that some part of the Enterprise F will be incorporated into the Enterprise G.
 
I have a theory that Horonium was used to polarize the hulls of ships like the NX class during the mid 22nd century. They mentioned it being used in hull plating, but it can also store/release energy.

Perhaps it was only used until better alloys and deflector shields were adopted by Starfleet.

Thoughts?
 
One thing about this episode that I appreciated was how at no point did any of the LD characters wonder how they became three dimensional. They aren't "cartoons" per se. They're flesh and blood people, like Pike and co. Animation is just the style in which their stories are told. Other than the opening and the conclusion, it's not even mentioned. No more than it was mentioned in TAS.

I feel like they're saying Kirk, Pike, Archer, Picard, Biomler, etc. lived their lives and "Star Trek" (in its various forms) is merely a dramatization of them. With the usual liberties taken when adapting events to film and television. I'm sure you all thought of this already, but sometimes I need the occipital area of my head to impact with the arm of my chair before I get a point.
 
One thing about this episode that I appreciated was how at no point did any of the LD characters wonder how they became three dimensional. They aren't "cartoons" per se. They're flesh and blood people, like Pike and co. Animation is just the style in which their stories are told. Other than the opening and the conclusion, it's not even mentioned. No more than it was mentioned in TAS.

I feel like they're saying Kirk, Pike, Archer, Picard, Biomler, etc. lived their lives and "Star Trek" (in its various forms) is merely a dramatization of them. With the usual liberties taken when adapting events to film and television. I'm sure you all thought of this already, but sometimes I need the occipital area of my head to impact with the arm of my chair before I get a point.

I like at the very end they blame the cartoon thing on hallucinations caused by Orion Hurricanes.

Also the The Old Scientists joke was clever.
 
One thing about this episode that I appreciated was how at no point did any of the LD characters wonder how they became three dimensional. They aren't "cartoons" per se. They're flesh and blood people, like Pike and co. Animation is just the style in which their stories are told. Other than the opening and the conclusion, it's not even mentioned. No more than it was mentioned in TAS.

I feel like they're saying Kirk, Pike, Archer, Picard, Biomler, etc. lived their lives and "Star Trek" (in its various forms) is merely a dramatization of them. With the usual liberties taken when adapting events to film and television. I'm sure you all thought of this already, but sometimes I need the occipital area of my head to impact with the arm of my chair before I get a point.
As the SNW end sequence shows: The only reason we see the LDS in animated form is everything is told from Mariner's perspective and anytime she relates one of her stories, (which we the audience see as an LDS episode); she's DRUNK OFF HER ASS ORION DELOX! (The Orion liquor mentioned in the episode that the SNW crew were all drunk on as they were shown as animated characters. As Dr. M'Benga queries in that animated scene: "WHAT THE HELL IS IN THIS?!") ;)
 
Anyone know if “Horonium” is named in reference to anything specific? It's somewhat similar to “honor” or even “honorarium”. Can't find anything online about it, but maybe one of you had thoughts about it.
 
Anyone know if “Horonium” is named in reference to anything specific? It's somewhat similar to “honor” or even “honorarium”. Can't find anything online about it, but maybe one of you had thoughts about it.
I thought it was Heroium? (Heavy on the 'Hero' aspect of the alloy; in the same way I always thought Duranium (which is what the TOS ship's Hulls are composed of), was named to emphasize the 'Durability' aspect? :shrug:;)
 
Anyone know if “Horonium” is named in reference to anything specific? It's somewhat similar to “honor” or even “honorarium”. Can't find anything online about it, but maybe one of you had thoughts about it.

I think it's a reference to the Greek root "hour" and to time. Similar to "horology".
 
I thought it was Heroium? (Heavy on the 'Hero' aspect of the alloy; in the same way I always thought Duranium (which is what the TOS ship's Hulls are composed of), was named to emphasize the 'Durability' aspect? :shrug:;)
I think it's a reference to the Greek root "hour" and to time. Similar to "horology".
Memory Alpha has it as Horonium, but I really like both of your ideas!

I don't think there's any significance to the name. Just another fictional substance. :shrug:
… or could be that, too, yeah. :lol:
 
Also I take it that there's no danger the Orions could actually USE the time portal? Assuming 1) they can't translate the instructions, and 2) there's no more hironium alloy to power it?
There were no instructions.
The hieroglyphs Uhura eventually translated essentially said "This Is A Time Machine".

Nausicaans apparently, are as simpleminded as Packleds.
:techman:
 
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Also the The Old Scientists joke was clever.
That's actually a previous Lower Decks joke. One of my favorites. So I squealed when I heard that was the name of the ep.

OK. This costume designer has a weird thing with cross over flaps on uniforms. Both future Pike's TWOK uniform and now the LD uniforms have flaps that go down at a 45 degree angle rather than following the line of the shoulder. It doesn't do the LD uni any favors and it kills the TWOK Maroons. It's worse on the TWOK uniform because you have a shoulder strap that is now twice as long as it should be.

Actually, I just realized that's why the LD uniforms look wrong too! There's too much black at the top because the black has to be below the flap, and because of that angle the black is twice as low as it should be! It also puts the com badge way too low as well!
 
Is it just me or do the live-action Cerritos uniforms have more of the black area (near the shoulders) than the animated versions do?

In animation, the division color goes almost all the way up and only ends a short distance below the neck. But in live action the color area ends like halfway up the front!
I noticed that too.
 
Actually, I just realized that's why the LD uniforms look wrong too! There's too much black at the top because the black has to be below the flap, and because of that angle the black is twice as low as it should be! It also puts the com badge way too low as well!
Well being a costumer groupie I read that LD art design team and Bernadette Croft and her team got together to figure out how best to translate the looks for live action - some things were too distracting, colors had to be darkened, the shade of purple for the hair etc. But they tried to make the cut of the uniform tops proportioned to suggest cartoon without being cartoonish. The boot soles really sold it for me though. I think they did a bang-up job.
 
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