Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Serveaux, May 6, 2022.
God damn NOMAD...
When he calls up the files of the people he saves and they're all children, that was poignant. The "kids" he saves are actual kids at that moment in time. I have a feeling he's going to follow their lives as they grow, branding his fate indelibly into his mind and soul.
That is a huge assumption, given what we saw. He is definitely contemplating it, though.
Was this originally a Hoshi episode?
Vima. On Talos, in The Menagerie / original pilot.
It definitely gave me vibes of "Breaking the Ice(ENT)."
Well yeah they are kids. Remember this episode is about 10 years before the accident. They are all cadets during the accident so they are probably late teens early 20s so them being kids was no surprise at all.
And he may end up saving more than just five kids from that training ship. He remembers five names but for all we know that training vessel had a much larger complement of cadets attending that day's instruction.
I got the sense that he is was thinking of letting the future unfold the way it does. The episode was all about predetermined fate after the asteroid followed through on what it already knew would happen. That being said it would be easy for pike just to tell Starfleet to cancel that particular exercise and then his fate will be changed. But I think he does not want to tamper with time. I kind of wish he would though. That would seal this show as a alternate time line. Which I already think it is.
Pike mentions to Una that he reads the names of the cadets he will save. So I saw the scene as just showing us Pike's routine where he pulls up their pics and reads their names. I don't think we know what he is planning
I hope the remaining episodes don't feature Pike stalking these kids any further.
This episode is now my everything. Uhura in the spotlight. Yes! At last, she gets a story of her own in an episode. Took 55 years!
I like how Pike basically says, "yeah don't interfere but we don't let anyone die because of it." Yeah, take that Picard and your rigid, sanctimonious interpretation of General Order One. Picard treats the Prime Directive as sacrosanct to absolve himself from lifting so much as a finger.
Also screw the Prime Directive.
Except that Una's attraction towards Pike dates back to the first pilot. It wouldn't be out of place, though with the amount of romantic relationships on DSC I could do without it on SNW.
Excellent episode. Thoughts:
1. WTH is up with the captain's quarters? Open flame fireplace and a kitchen, for crissake? I can only imagine Kirk when he took command of the ship: [Shat]"WT ever-loving F?!?! My quarters............are................a broom closet!"[/Shat]
2. Ethan Peck is really growing on me as Spock- he's definitely putting in the effort. He's selling it much more than Zach Quinto ever did, at this point.
3. This version of Uhura whoops ass on Zoe Saldana's, too. Much more realistic, much less a 'badass' Trek version of Gamora from GotG, sexing up Spock.
4. So far, everyone is selling as a functional, rational adult. Especially our reluctant cadet. More of that, please!
5. Really enjoyed the use of music as a medium for communication, here.
6. Did the Shepherds remind anyone else of the creepy aliens from the Enterprise episode 'Silent Enemy'? We never saw them again in Enterprise after that one episode- maybe this could be their resurgence. There was always potential there that I felt was left unexploited. The Shepherds certainly came off as asshole-ish enough to board a ship uninvited and take samples from the crew against their will.
7. Loved the episodic format. That line: "before your sun burned in space" or whatever it was, was a total throwback to TOS. Loved it, plus the use of the term 'landing party'.
8. Do the Aenar have forehead ridges? Been a while since I watched that episode of Enterprise, but whatever. Hemmer seems cool.
9. The writers have two choices here: Pike's fate is his fate, or he beats the accident and proves once and for all that this is not the TOS timeline. Can't have it both ways.
10. I thought it was a nice touch that Number One and Spock also showed up to the captain's dinner in uniform- very in character for both of them.
Looking forward to next week!
Kirk had the right attitude. "These people are suffering and even dying and we can prevent it. Maybe it'll get me in trouble with the brass but I need to be able to live with myself."
Yeah, I think if Pike starts following the lives and careers of these kids, he'll be even more invested in saving them at the moment of truth.
Which is why Kirk is my captain. Always has been. Always will.
I felt the same thing. I was hoping the recaps would be a thing of the past now
And to me, that's being more what the Federation and Starfleet should be: the "humanitarian and peacekeeping armada".
I never got how someone could live with themselves, watching a civilization be wiped out by a volcano, or by an outside force that is preying on another race, etc and do nothing but watch. To me, that was a horrendous misinterpretation of the Prime Directive. I can understand not revealing yourself to alter some race's technological progression (we saw it here in the first episode), but to watch a whole race die when something could be done is insanity.
They got rid of the silly ironman style deploying EVA helmets from DSC Season 2.
The makeup is based off the DSC Andorian Makeup, just less fluid more rigid.
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