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Strange Days

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How I miss sci fi of the 90's, or any decade before that. Now, people are so used to seeing special effects that a real sci fi film would collapse under its own weight or stupidity if all of the special effects were removed.

So back in the mid 90's Cameron, (who back then had still had an edge) wrote and produced this film Strange Days.

So, what about it? First the bad.

What is the shelf-life of a sci film that introduces a new technology but happens to be set only a few years in the future? Where is the internet? What about oddly appropriate character names like Iris and Faith that also define those characters' roles in the story (though none of these names are as egregiously bad as Ariadne from
Inception)?

So those questions might be good questions, but I think if you want a real- gritty science fiction morality tale, one with a bit of an edge, you can watch the film for what it is rather than bringing all of the baggage that we bring with it that might be adressed in any of the above questions.

I think the technology shown in the film is at least as plausible, if not moreso, as the technology in Inception, and yet Strange Days probes further into it, presenting some of the more horrific implications of this technology. It even creates it's own believable street lingo that goes with the technology. I loved Inception, but in some ways, this film is far more challenging, far more ambitious, at least for the time. You have sequences filmed without the benefit of CGI that were incredibly difficult to film because they had to be done in long continuous shot (the POV shots during playback) that I think seem gritty, real, and fascinating, like a first person shooter game but with a bit morality tale thrown in. But the implications of the technology are taken even further, as in the death of Iris.

I miss films that were dark and gritty filled with atmosphere and real dilemmas. Many sci fi films are style over substance, and the films themselves are overly stylized. Where are the light sources in films plastered in front of green screens ala Sucker Punch? This film looks real, always, and is not afraid to present the viewer with real tough questions.
 
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Haven't seen Strange Days for a few years, but it's a film I really like. I agree that the timing of it is jarring, but at the time
millennial films were all the rage I think. The film has a great look, a somewhat realistic central conceit (and yeah memories would become like drugs) and is very well cast. Wasn't it an 18 (or R) certificate though? Unfortunately if made these day's it'd need to be a family friendly 12A PG13...oh and it's be in 3D!
 
Haven't seen Strange Days for a few years, but it's a film I really like. I agree that the timing of it is jarring, but at the time
millennial films were all the rage I think. The film has a great look, a somewhat realistic central conceit (and yeah memories would become like drugs) and is very well cast. Wasn't it an 18 (or R) certificate though? Unfortunately if made these day's it'd need to be a family friendly 12A PG13...oh and it's be in 3D!
LOL I spit out my drink in laughter reading your post.

I think the biggest most significant thing Nolan did when he made Inception was to convince the studios that people are interested in thoughtful sci fi films and they will make money and they don't need 3-D.

Strange Days with it's much darker themes, its raw violence, and the violent acts that it implies (not to mention topless women shown throughout) is a much darker "real" film than the kind of tripe we've been steadily heading towards now.
 
I love this movie - one of my fav's. And very quotable...

Talk radio host: Now, just so the, the rest of us know how much time is left, when is the rapture supposed to hit exactly? Is it midnight New Year's Eve?
Lori: That's right.
Talk radio host: Aha. Is that midnight L.A. time or, or Eastern Standard Time, or what? I mean, what timezone is God in anyway?

Lenny Nero: See... I can get you what you want, I can. I can get you anything, you just have to talk to me, you have to trust me. You can trust me, 'cause I'm your priest, I'm your shrink... I am you main connection to the switchboard of he soul. I'm the magic man... Santa Claus of the subconscious. You say it, you think it, you can have it.

Max: The issue's not whether you're paranoid, Lenny, I mean look at this shit, the issue is whether you're paranoid enough.

Philo Gant: Paranoia is just reality on a finer scale.

Lenny: His ass is so tight, when he farts only dogs can hear it.

Lenny Nero: Two million years of human evolution and that's the best idea you can come up with.

Lenny Nero: Look... everyone needs to take a walk to the dark end of the street sometimes, it's what we are.

Lenny Nero: Bullet-resistant? What ever happened to bullet-proof?

Lenny Nero: 911 is busy!

Philo: The only time a whore should open her mouth is when she is giving head.

Faith Justin: You know one of the ways movies are still better than playback? The music comes up, there's credits, and you always know when it's over.
[turns to look at Lenny]
Faith Justin: IT'S OVER!

Mace: Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason.

Tick: One man's mundane and desperate existence is another man's Technicolor.

Lenny Nero: Right now his frontal lobes are like two runny eggs.

Jeriko One: You know what? You've pulled over the wrong black man, Officer Steckler! I'm the 800 pound gorilla in your mist, fucker! I make more money in a day than you make in a whole year! And my lawyer loves sending sorryass Aryan RoboCop fuckers like you to jail!

Jeriko One: You're gonna be in my next song. It's called "RoboSteckler." It's about a cop who met his worst nightmare: a nigga with enough political juice to squash your ass like a stinkbug! You gonna be famous, fucker!

Jeriko One: You love that red, white, and blue, but you hate that black, black, black.

Max Peltier: You put that thing on the 11 o'clock news and by midnight you'll have the biggest riot in history. They'll see the smoke from Canada.

Strickland: You're a disappointment, Nero. But you know what disappoints me more?
Lenny Nero: Your sex life?

Lenny: I didn't know you were color blind, Max.
Max: It was the only way I could stand your ties.
Lenny: This tie cost more than your entire wardrobe... it's the one thing that stands between me and the jungle.

Max: Cheer up. The world's about to end in ten minutes anyway.
 
This thread is useless without videos (for people that may not have seen this movie and are curious)...

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0zaqWQiXG8&feature=related[/yt]

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yaXPx6xWEQ[/yt]
 
I was a fan of Strange Days. Haven't seen it for years though. My OH fell in love with Angela Basset when her character called Lenny pussy-whipped.
 
Great film.

The sprawling feel of the film, avoidance of overuse of showy effects, and thoughtful approach to the film making reminds me somewhat of another sci-fi film from around the same time, Wim Wenders' Until The End of the World. Which I would also highly recommend checking out.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZUhGfD20vM[/yt]
 
It's been a while for me too but I do recall that Angela Basset's heroine is one of the best movie heroines of all time. She had a lot of layers and it was great to see the useless mess of a 'hero' alongside her more balanced character. Compared to a lot of the dross out there, this one is closer to a masterpiece of characterisation.
 
true. And it may be just me, but she is almost presented as Lenny's protector, and she almost seems physically stronger than him and is more useful in a fight, which is not the way females are usually portrayed in action films. But, I agree with your point, that her characters has many layers.
 
The viewer starts off wondering what on Earth she can possibly have in common with Lenny. Why does she like him when he's so dislikable and keeps coming to his rescue? It's baffling until the story unfolds. Tom Sizemore's character is very good too. Very well cast movie.
 
Kathryn Bigelow had a run of great movies around that time. She's only done 2 real genre movies, and they were both fantastic, I hope she tries her hand at a fantasy or a sci-fi again.
 
Haven't seen Strange Days for a few years, but it's a film I really like. I agree that the timing of it is jarring, but at the time
millennial films were all the rage I think. The film has a great look, a somewhat realistic central conceit (and yeah memories would become like drugs) and is very well cast. Wasn't it an 18 (or R) certificate though? Unfortunately if made these day's it'd need to be a family friendly 12A PG13...oh and it's be in 3D!
LOL I spit out my drink in laughter reading your post.

I think the biggest most significant thing Nolan did when he made Inception was to convince the studios that people are interested in thoughtful sci fi films and they will make money and they don't need 3-D.

Strange Days with it's much darker themes, its raw violence, and the violent acts that it implies (not to mention topless women shown throughout) is a much darker "real" film than the kind of tripe we've been steadily heading towards now.

Yeah this is very true. Though it's quite flawed, one of the things I loved about the Watchman film was that it didn't try to make the story kiddie friendly. I'm all for things that appeal to everyone (I'm a Who fan after all) but its nice if there's still a few things that are made soley for adults!
 
Always been a fan of this film. The mob scene near the end is great and there's a whole lot to love. But every time I watch it, I always feel like something's missing or it feels sort of slack or lacking some energy or tension. I feel the same way about Near Dark though, and that's highly-regarded by many, so maybe it's just me? I don't have that problem with Point Break, so I don't think it's something about Kathryn Bigelow's directing style in general. The only other film of hers I've seen is Blue Steel, but I only saw it once when it came out, and that was a long time ago.
 
Flawed masterpiece. Needs to be cut in half in terms of length. Can't watch the violence especially Iris' murder but Ralph Fiennes is superb as the most unlikely hero ever, love his relationship with Angela Bassetts character, love the ending and the image of the soldier on the tank kissing the hippie girl is great
 
Hmm, saw this movie maybe half a year ago and I walked away not really liking it.

Maybe I was in a weird place and couldn't appreciate it. I should try it again, I think.
 
The best part of this movie is watching one of Lenny's clients react to a sample of his technology, then finding out he was a experiencing a girl taking a shower. :lol: Great, great punchline. I'm really disappointed with the output of Cameron and Bigelow since. None of it has been this good, although "Titanic" was all right.
 
They actually have this on Netflix streaming right now. It's in my queue but I haven't gotten around to watching it yet. Sounds like I have something to look forward to when I do though.
 
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