Stephen Collins (Decker from TMP) investigated for child molestation

[Trek Survivor]

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Wow, shocked at some of the comments here - good old "open-minded" Trek fans. Even seem to forget the basic "innocent till proven guilty" maxim.

I'm not saying he's innocent; it sure looks damning. But some of the earlier comments here I found terrible - I'll wait till he confesses or is found guilty.

 

[CoveTom]

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I've never been guilty of holding TMZ too high with regard to journalistic integrity. I'm surprised that anyone else does? I'm amongst the disappointed that TMZ chose to make that public at all.

Stephen Collins acting career has come to an abrupt end. Even if he committed no crime. And that saddens me.

Not necessarily. True, he has started to experience fallout from this -- which is sad, since it is currently an unproven allegation. But Jeffrey Jones was actually convicted for child pornography and solicitation of a minor for pornographic photos, and served his sentence, and yet he has still secured acting roles since. I'm not saying that's necessarily a good thing in his case -- after all, he was proven guilty -- but it does demonstrate that if Collins is ultimately exonerated, his acting career isn't necessarily over. Though I do think it's sad how easily one's reputation can be ruined today with a single unproven accusation.

^The tape has been requested by NYPD. Coincidentally, the tape only surfaced during a nasty divorce. She should be prosecuted for holding it this long.

This is a developing story and we should take it slow. I'm reading that she turned over the tapes two years ago and that she is also wondering how these tapes got released. Everyone is innocent at this point.

Absolutely, agree 1000%.

 

[Cyke101]

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Wow, shocked at some of the comments here - good old "open-minded" Trek fans. Even seem to forget the basic "innocent till proven guilty" maxim.

I'm not saying he's innocent; it sure looks damning. But some of the earlier comments here I found terrible - I'll wait till he confesses or is found guilty.

As heavy as these charges are, I would think that Collins would have released a statement by now to defend his innocence. However, the sessions on the tape imply that his problems had been weighing heavily on his conscience.

But above all that, I have to echo a few of the statements above: I really hope that those who suffered abuse find their way to cope.

 

[Shat Happens]

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Well, he did indecent exposure in the past:

If I had a news site I'd use that picture.

 

[BillJ]

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Well, he did indecent exposure in the past:

If I had a news site I'd use that picture.

This picture has disturbed me for thirty-five years and now it disturbs me more so. Perhaps when we get the next edition of TMP, they can CGI that out!

 

[Isolinear]

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Well, he did indecent exposure in the past:

If I had a news site I'd use that picture.

Like this?

 

[Admiral Bear]

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Well, he did indecent exposure in the past:

If I had a news site I'd use that picture.

This picture has disturbed me for thirty-five years and now it disturbs me more so. Perhaps when we get the next edition of TMP, they can CGI that out!

It makes you wonder quite what was happening on a general cultural level in Hollywood during the 70s regarding acceptability of a bloke walking around in a costume THAT indencent with his meat and two veg clearly visible for all to see.

It's like no one on the set, least of all Robert Wise, had the good sense to say "no fecking way are you going in a Trek movie looking like that!".

Needless to say, that thing could destroy a Borg cube with one missile.

Fate. Protects fools, little children, but not ships named Decker.

 

[BillJ]

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It makes you wonder quite what was happening on a general cultural level in Hollywood during the 70s regarding acceptability of a bloke walking around in a costume THAT indencent with his meat and two veg clearly visible for all to see.

Nothing different than usual. Or have you forgotten about Commander "Chubby" circa 2001?

 

[TheSubCommander]

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This is very unfortunate. I never watched 7th Heaven, but TMP is a great movie, and I remember Stephen Collins from the short-lived Indiana Jones knock off show Tales of the Gold Monkey, which really wasn't that great in retrospect, but I remember it fondly.

If he turns out to be guilty, he should be prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law. That said, I hope this doesn't turn out to be true. I mean, this is TMZ reporting this, after all. Not CNN.

Regardless, I won't let this ruin my perception of TMP.

 

[JWPlatt]

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...I mean, this is TMZ reporting this, after all. Not CNN.

Just wondering - this is an objective question because I really don't know - is TMZ more known as a site that posts tabloid stories that are usually untrue, or salacious stories that are usually true?

 

[TheSubCommander]

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Until I see it on a traditional news site like CNN, for example, I take what TMZ says with a ton of salt.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/08/showbiz/stephen-collins-molestation-probe/index.html?iref=allsearch

Even then, there is such a thing as innocent until proven guilty. But this definitely doesn't look good. Like I said, if he is guilty, he should have the book thrown at him.

That's all I am saying.

 

[Shat Happens]

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have you forgotten about Commander "Chubby" circa 2001?

Please clarify.

 

[plynch]

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It taints the movie for me. When I see him, I will think about child molestation. Every time. I did not use to think of that when watching TMP. Therefore he will taint the movie every time I watch it. Which might be never, anyway.

 

[BillJ]

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have you forgotten about Commander "Chubby" circa 2001?

Please clarify.

Decontamination scene with T'pol and Tucker from "Broken Bow".

 

[bbailey861]

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It taints the movie for me. When I see him, I will think about child molestation. Every time. I did not use to think of that when watching TMP. Therefore he will taint the movie every time I watch it. Which might be never, anyway.

Was that never before the story broke, or was it never after the story broke?

 

[CuttingEdge100]

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I found this whole thing to be quite surprising on a number of levels. However as I listen to the story there are a number of details I find bizarre

• If she found out in 2012 that her husband had molested several girls between 10-13 years of age 12-15 years ago, and she recorded this at the advice of her lawyer: Why didn't she go to the police then?
• This comes out in a heated divorce: Divorces can be hideously ugly and people accuse each other of all sorts of things; this is further exacerbated that she sat on this for two years before unloading it.
• The recording has not been authenticated and it is possible to doctor an audio recording through several methods: The first is to cut and paste a person's words after listening them for lengthly periods of time; the second is to hire another person to play the part (while Stephen Collins has a distinctive voice -- there are others that sound like him)
• Other irregularities in TMZ's reporting included the fact that Faye Grant was told in the 1980's that Collins hoped his kid wasn't a boy because he didn't think he could control himself from having oral sex with him: This statement, in addition to being horrifyingly disturbing, seems unusual for preferential sexual predators (If the statement was true); it also contradicts what she said earlier about finding out in 2012
• There is admittedly an allegation that appears to be dated around 1972: I'm not sure the circumstances are around it (who reported it?).

Needless to say, if even part of this is true it's disturbing on so many levels, and it's not just because he's an actor -- that's largely irrelevant IMHO -- it's the timescale.

His first offense was 42 years ago at least: That's a lot of people he could have molested especially as he hopped back and forth across the country.

 

[OpenMaw]

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Decontamination scene with T'pol and Tucker from "Broken Bow".

For some reason I took your "circa 2001" to mean 2001 : A Space Odyssey.

 

[BillJ]

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Decontamination scene with T'pol and Tucker from "Broken Bow".

For some reason I took your "circa 2001" to mean 2001 : A Space Odyssey.

 

[Melakon]

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In that TMP angle shown above. I don't know why Collins wasn't given a cup or some padding to wear to make it less obvious. Shatner said in ST Movie Memories the pants were snug in the crotch.

But refusing to watch a film because one of the supporting actors has a conviction or even just allegations of wrong doing is extreme in my view. It would be like refusing to watch Beetlejuice, Amadeus, or Ferris Bueller's Day Off simply because Jeffrey Jones is in them.

 

[BillJ]

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In that TMP angle shown above. I don't know why Collins wasn't given a cup or some padding to wear to make it less obvious. Shatner said in ST Movie Memories the pants were snug in the crotch.

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