STC Ep. 6: "Come Not Between The Dragons" grading and discussion....(possible spoilers)

[Treadwell]

I'm on a big uniform kick right now (Kirk's velour was green!) and I like the quality of STC's uniforms. Are those Anovos ones, or are they making their own?

More and more, they're Ginger's, as Anovos tunics work their way to secondary characters/background.

 

[Maurice]

Here's an additional piece of primary source material related to the command uniform color: a mention of Sulu and Chekov's shirt colors from a 6/7/68 production memo about Special Photographic Effects for the 3rd season "The Paradise Syndrome" (then called "The Paleface"). Remember these are the doubleknit fabric ones, not the velour.

 

[9gs]

Actually I think that was me! And now here I am questioning it!

Hate to burst your bubble but I will take credit for this.

- I liked Gigi's performance a lot. I thought as a victim herself it fit the pattern of withdrawal and mirrored what they had the creature do and that is go into hiding. She played it very vulnerable and in stark contrast to the other crew members who were acting out their anger.

Then your post.

IMO, the stark difference in GE's character was intentional, as somebody else said. She was resonating with Usdi's vibes of fear, whereas the rest of the crew were picking up the violent emotions from Usdi's dad.

 

[markb]

More and more, they're Ginger's, as Anovos tunics work their way to secondary characters/background.

Thanks for that. She's doing good work.

 

[Treadwell]

Not that Anovos tunics aren't excellent! Wear and tear.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

Hate to burst your bubble but I will take credit for this.



Then your post.

Ah, you are quite right. Heaps of credit to you. And it wasn't much of a bubble anyway!

Not that Anovos tunics aren't excellent! Wear and tear.

And that's without Kirk's getting torn on purpose!

 

[Treadwell]

Not that I'm the master of STC wardrobe inventory knowledge, but I think there might still be some of John Broughton's fine work somewhere in there, too.

 

[STEPhon IT]

Vic has a vast network of talent on his team.

 

[YJAGG]

Any actresses from the 1960's you can reference that particular perkiness? I honestly didn't know there was a certain era-type-of-perkiness??? McKennah is simply perky.

Sally Field as Gidget, Donna Douglas as Ellie May or at times Dawn Wells as Maryann?

 

[STEPhon IT]

LoL!!! My point is there's no such thing as a 1960's perkiness. McKennah's perkiness is universal to the definition of the word... era has nothing to do with it. It's a welcome trait for any character.

 

[Warped9]

I couldn't help but notice that throughout the whole episode we never learn what Usdi's species calls itself.

This isn't without precedent. We never learned the name of a number of species seen in TOS.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

This isn't without precedent. We never learned the name of a number of species seen in TOS.

Guess you told him off.
Wait...

 

[Warped9]

Guess you told him off.
Wait...

 

[YJAGG]

Here's an additional piece of primary source material related to the command uniform color: a mention of Sulu and Chekov's shirt colors from a 6/7/68 production memo about Special Photographic Effects for the 3rd season "The Paradise Syndrome" (then called "The Paleface"). Remember these are the doubleknit fabric ones, not the velour.

I know it is green, I have know for 20 plus years that it is green, but I admit that I would of loved it if in ds9 they when Brooks says command wore gold, and operations red either Meany or Siddig, comment on it looking green, with a other person giving a dismissive it's just the lighting on these old ships....

 

[STEPhon IT]

But to show how stupid Trek fans are the DS9 folks had Brooks wear a yellow tunic which looked nothing like the tunic Command wore on Star Trek. Trying to simulate the appearance of NTSC's version of the tunic, an ultimate failure. For the ones who think Paramount was on the up and up, thinks that episode was a good way to celebrate the 1st series are more benighted than I thought they were.

 

[Firebird]

But to show how stupid Trek fans are the DS9 folks had Brooks wear a yellow tunic which looked nothing like the tunic Command wore on Star Trek. Trying to simulate the appearance of NTSC's version of the tunic, an ultimate failure. For the ones who think Paramount was on the up and up, thinks that episode was a good way to celebrate the 1st series are more benighted than I thought they were.

...that's a lot of vitrol over a costume...

 

[YJAGG]

I liked it, I thought it was clever, as for matching it perfectly, well I tend to look at the overall picture. There had been a rumor a few years before Forrest Gump came out that there was some 1st Doctor Who footage that was never seen and going to be colorized and worked into an 25th anniversary episode of Doctor Who, using green screen.

I guess I am dancing in the dark
be·night·ed
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adjective
adjective: benighted

1. 1.
   in a state of pitiful or contemptible intellectual or moral ignorance, typically owing to a lack of opportunity.
   "they saw themselves as bringers of culture to poor benighted peoples"
2. 2.
   overtaken by darkness.
   "a storm developed and we were forced to wait benighted near the summit"

 

[Maurice]

But to show how stupid Trek fans are the DS9 folks had Brooks wear a yellow tunic which looked nothing like the tunic Command wore on Star Trek. Trying to simulate the appearance of NTSC's version of the tunic, an ultimate failure. For the ones who think Paramount was on the up and up, thinks that episode was a good way to celebrate the 1st series are more benighted than I thought they were.

Yeah, that one shirt sure ruined the whole show and made Trekkies look stupid.

Except it didn't.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

But to show how stupid Trek fans are the DS9 folks had Brooks wear a yellow tunic which looked nothing like the tunic Command wore on Star Trek. Trying to simulate the appearance of NTSC's version of the tunic, an ultimate failure. For the ones who think Paramount was on the up and up, thinks that episode was a good way to celebrate the 1st series are more benighted than I thought they were.

Why was it a failure? They tried to match the costume color to what was in people's collective memories, and that wasn't green even if we know it actually was behind-the-scenes.

 

[urbandefault]

It bothered me more that Avery Brooks' shirt looked too big for him, not that it was the wrong color.

But it still didn't bother me enough to complain about it for decades.