Status of the Borg in 2400
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If I am not mistaken, there were 6 Transwarp Hubs in the galaxy, and now there are 5.
It could be that transwarp hubs are not that much more stable than natural wormholes and that the ability to access territory beyond the Delta Quadrant may come and go. There could be periods in which they can easily travel to the Alpha Quadrant and periods in which they can't and have to wait however long for the next opportunity to occur, IMO.
Along with one less transwarp hub, we've lost how many Borg Queens, despite the implication one controls the collective yet there's a new one. new actor, and a new one-liner to readily contradict what went out a week before... The Borg were great but they stopped being great once it became too easy to wipe them out, and that started at script level. It's not an unfair complaint, even if the episodes in question were still fun - but they were diminished nonetheless.
Add into all that how Janeway taught them in her dealings with the Queens and they should know more about humanity than Locutus could ever have thought up for them.
Therefore, I'mm hoping that "Picard" starts out with two cubes or else they're really bad at adapting, unless the script demands them to remain broken records. Like modified phaser usage, "one or two at best" and then half a dozen blasts later they can still belt out one or two more...
Add into all that how Janeway taught them in her dealings with the Queens and they should know more about humanity than Locutus could ever have thought up for them.
Therefore, I'mm hoping that "Picard" starts out with two cubes or else they're really bad at adapting, unless the script demands them to remain broken records. Like modified phaser usage, "one or two at best" and then half a dozen blasts later they can still belt out one or two more...
It's been a tradition in Star Trek to gradually de-demonize the enemy. We saw that happen with the Klingons, which seemed impossible up to that point. It could happen with the Borg as well, not that the Borg would become our friends, but that the Borg collective would see the light and gradually dissolve. This was the seed planted with I, Borg, was it not? So I think that's what they're going to roll with in some capacity. It's another fall of the soviet union sort of story ala Trek VI. So we could see a two-fer, really, with the Borg AND the leftover Romulans.
I would think that this is correct, since if there was an immediate path right to Earth (which was shown in Endgame), then why didn’t the Borg just send ships to Earth and assimilate it right then and there?
I don't think the plot of the show will be "the Borg come back" so much as the threat of the Borg coming back.
Like, I could see a scenario where no one has seen a major Borg incursion for over a decade. However, there are Borg artifacts and de-assimilated drones all over the place. Every Alpha Quadrant power has been studying Borg technology and integrating it into their own systems because it's just so goddamned useful. However, it could have major downsides if the Borg actually return, because it would allow their systems to be effectively hacked and turned right over to the Borg. So there's a lot of paranoia about what happens if a local outbreak of the Collective happens once again.
Like, I could see a scenario where no one has seen a major Borg incursion for over a decade. However, there are Borg artifacts and de-assimilated drones all over the place. Every Alpha Quadrant power has been studying Borg technology and integrating it into their own systems because it's just so goddamned useful. However, it could have major downsides if the Borg actually return, because it would allow their systems to be effectively hacked and turned right over to the Borg. So there's a lot of paranoia about what happens if a local outbreak of the Collective happens once again.
The Borg lost the Unicomplex, several queens, multiple cubes, and trillions of drones.
Not sure what all is left.
Not sure what all is left.
The Voyager gang might well have created a new collective in the episode "Unity." Sweet irony.
With Seven and Hugh's actor returning it's hard not to feel that way. That's a lot of Borg elements to not mean something with them is up.
Here is my idea. The last we saw of the Borg in Voyager Endgame, the Queen seemed to go more Davros--and talk about a more quiet type of assimilation with spores released not unlike what we saw with the last ALIEN prequel (Covenant)
She might have had a mad on for what we saw in the novels--sending cubes to destroy things. Destiny should be behind us in this series.
Here--in PICARD, we might be seeing a more low-key way of doing things. A true synth hybrid--no implants--like Ilia down to the molecular level. That might be the young lady we see in the series. She is Borg without having to look like a cenobite.
The Borg let cubes grow silent--and are used by non-Borg as stations.
They may be biding their time.
She might have had a mad on for what we saw in the novels--sending cubes to destroy things. Destiny should be behind us in this series.
Here--in PICARD, we might be seeing a more low-key way of doing things. A true synth hybrid--no implants--like Ilia down to the molecular level. That might be the young lady we see in the series. She is Borg without having to look like a cenobite.
The Borg let cubes grow silent--and are used by non-Borg as stations.
They may be biding their time.
How nice that she autographed it, too!
Clearly there are many Borg Queens. To really hurt them you have to kill the Borg King!
I am going by the theory that I had mentioned in other threads, with the a Romulan faction taking possession of a Borg Cube that was abandoned by the Borg and are trying to weaponize Borg tech to rebuild their Empire. That lets 2 weakened powers, the Borg and Romulans to return and became a new kind of threat.
One Borg Queen. She's just an AI installed into a random Borg drone. Probably using clones of the "perfect" drone - or maybe just the first Queens, given we saw three Alice Krige Queens in addition to two Susanna Thompson models.
Killing the Borg Queen is similar to uninstalling Windows from my computer. I've got a spare disc somewhere, or I can run to the store and get one if need be and reinstall it.
It's the little personal touches that make it so touching.How nice that she autographed it, too!
It's telling that the only Borg we've seen or heard about are freed drones. I really think the Borg Collective is done. Endgame was literally their endgame. It's going to be the freed drones that are the issue in Picard. What did they do with their freedom? Not all of them will end up like Seven. Some will be a threat. We've seen it in Descent and Unity. Even Unimatrix Zero could have been turned towards evil.
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