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Starship Reliant Maximum speed ?

TransporterBeam

Lieutenant Commander
What was the Max. speed of the Starship Reliant ? was were it's specifications and why did the model kit companies wait years to make a model kit of it ? i read it was made in 1995 and TWOK came out years before !
 
I'd assume that the max. warp speed would be about the same as it's other Federation contemporaries, like the Constitution. Not that I know exactly what that speed is...
 
1) We don't know,
2) We don't know, and
3) We don't know.

Memory Alpha gives a length of 233 meters, but doesn't say where they got the figure, or list any other specifications.


Marian
 
If the web site still exists, look for Federation Frontiers, maybe someone here knows of the website and can help!?

JDW
 
Over 20 years ago, I took some of the fan-favorite literature ("Star Trek Maps" and "Star Trek Spaceflight Chronology", among them, as well as some terminology from fan-made bluerpints and manuals and the like) to form an alternative theory for warp speed.

I assumed that the cylinder-shaped nacelles were "circumfirential warp drive", meaning they housed a single series of warp coils in each nacelle to create the warp envelope. Using Cochrane's Formula from "Star Trek Maps", to calculate warp velocity one takes the warp factor, cubes it, and then modifies the product with Cochrane's variable, which varies in space depending on environmental factors (given TNG's occasional mention of the hazzards of dark matter, I assumed that dark matter and/or dark energy would affect warp speeds). So you cube the warp factor, multiply it be Cochrane's variable, and then by the speed of light, to find how many times the speed of light is in a given area of the galaxy. This would apply to ships in TOS and ENT.

My theory, which I call WDE (Warp Drive Evolution) also calls for the new technology we see from Kirk's refit Enterprise (TMP) forward to be based on a much more advanced warp technology called linear warp drive. Linear warp balances power between two sets of coils in each nacelle (hence the vulnerability to a wormhole effect) to create a warp-within-a-warp effect. The two warp envelopes merge along the axis of motion (some canon ship diagnostic illustrations seem to suggest this, IIRC) to create a fourth-power speed. So Cochrane's Formula from "Maps" becomes a fourth-power formula.

In Franz Joseph's 1975 "Technical Manual", the Constitution-class' warp performance is listed as Warp 6 for maximum safe cruising and Warp 8 for emergencies (full throttle). During "The Cage", the fastest we ever hear Pike order the ship is to Warp 7. Images of the Enterprise from "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" show the nacelles with a different appearance, so perhaps the ship's warp engines (and their capacities) evolved over time with each refit. So perhaps Pike's Enterprise has an emergency speed of only Warp 7. But those warp factors would all be circumfirential (third-power) warp factors.

Since the matter-antimatter reactor aboard Kirk's refit Enterprise (TMP) was obviously more powerful (and much more sensitive to problems, Spock said he was "aware of your engine design difficulties" upon arriving aboard from Vulcan) and the fastest Kirk ordered the refit ship to (in an emergency situation) was only Warp 7, we can assume that the refit Enteprise has a top-end of Linear Warp 7, which would be seven times faster than previously.

This would also chime in with "Elaan of Troyus", in which Spock said that the Klingons' speed was "better than Warp 6"; if the Klingons had linear warp drive first, Linear Warp 4.0 would match the TOS Enterprise at Warp 6.349. Also note that the Stargazer, Picard's old ship with obvious 23rd century technological legacy, used four nacelles. Perhaps each nacelle housed just one set of coils. Also note the Excelsior and Galaxy-class ships (and the Enterprise-C) had a seam running down the length of each nacelle, splitting them in half... to split between two sets of coils?

Linear Warp 6.0 would be the same as Circumfirential Warp 10.9...

Linear Warp 7.0 would be the same as Circumfirential Warp 13.39...

Linear Warp 8.0 would be the same as Circumfirential Warp 16.0...

Linear Warp 9.0 would be the same as Circumfirential Warp 18.72...


Back to Reliant...

If we assume that Reliant is using Linear Warp drive per the notions above, even if she could only cruise at Warp 4 and sprint at Warp 6, she could still be at least as fast as Kirk's TOS Enterprise. If both the TMP Enterprise and the Reliant could cruise at Warp 5 and redline at Warp 7, they could both run circles around TOS-era ships.
 
That's a cool theory Wingsley, but I prefer an occam's razor approach to warp velocity factors. I'm not a big fan of "flavours" of warp drive, transwarp/slipstream, co-axial and any other obviously higher order concepts aside. I like the 10/3 TNG warp factor exponent as a constant right back to 2063, representing a fundamental characteristic of the structure of space/time and not an "individual" rate at which a particular drive type folds it. This gives ENT speeds and the previous "warp 2 barrier" a little kick in the pants.

The warp scale recalibration that puts warp 10 at infinite velocity is all warp 9+ as I see/prefer it. It probably happened soon after, and possibly resulted from lessons learned during, the "failed" transwarp program of the 2280's. This would also probably coincide with the first starships that regularly could have hit what should have been warp 10 (~2193c) with chief engineers scratching their heads at the missing power usage drop associated with integer warp factors in existing warp theory (might also be a good reason for wormhole causing instability when a "false" warp 10 capable drive - six times more powerful than any previous system I think was stated in TMP - was fired up for the first time).

On a completely subjective note, the miranda class has always looked a little slower and utilitarian than the constitution refit to me - no babble to back that up though.
 
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