Starship names in Starfleet communications logs in "Conspiracy"
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It's an easter egg only for himself, the rest of the graphics department, and the cast and crew. He's got to write something, so might as well make it fun, since it'll be illegible on screen.
Weren't the ones on the MSD sometimes obscured if it was going to be in-shot? The production team seemed to go out of their way to ensure the in-jokes couldn't or would't be seen by the audience.
I remember reading in the ST:TNG Tech Manual that, according to Mr. Okuda, that there were graphics on the Sick Bay display that were meant to be illegible on TV. One I remember is the amount of medical insurance available.
I am looking forward to the episode "The Measure of a Man". I think this is the last great chance we have at getting new ships added to our personal ship lists.
I am looking forward to the episode "The Measure of a Man". I think this is the last great chance we have at getting new ships added to our personal ship lists.
But they didn't think of them as "Easter eggs." That's a perception we impose on them looking back, a term that comes from video games and DVD releases. The people making these shows just needed to fill screens with lots of text, stuff that wouldn't be legible but had to appear to mean something, and they didn't have a lot of time to put it together. And they had to do it week in and week out for years, which could get very tedious if they didn't find a way to have fun with it. So naturally they put in a lot of jokes, both because it kept them entertained and because they didn't have the time to come up with stuff that would actually be consistent and meaningful in-universe. These weren't "Easter eggs" for the audience, they were jokes for the benefit of the cast and crew themselves.
As for in-jokes, even Jorg, who was doing most of the legwork on these orders, reached his limit. One of the orders referred to a Starbase Trailer Twenty-Nine, and he admitted he didn't know how he would write an entry for that one.
The mission orders have given us some head scratchers...
1.) The Heart of Gold, with the low registry of NCC-42, is an active duty starship.
2.) Three starships have the same registry as NCC-85343, and two starships have the same registry as NCC-19585.
3.) Two starships are ordered to the same planet for a cultural evolution study with the captains having the discretion to initiate first contact on behalf of the Federation.
I am waiting for him to fill-in some of the starships' information.
The mission orders have given us some head scratchers...
1.) The Heart of Gold, with the low registry of NCC-42, is an active duty starship.
2.) Three starships have the same registry as NCC-85343, and two starships have the same registry as NCC-19585.
3.) Two starships are ordered to the same planet for a cultural evolution study with the captains having the discretion to initiate first contact on behalf of the Federation.
I am waiting for him to fill-in some of the starships' information.
Or maybe it's just an in-joke and we shouldn't take every tiny detail so literally.
Oh man! Thank god you're here! Our parade was feeling a bit too dry, I'm glad you were here to rain on it!
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Well, if we can have Starbase Montgomery and Starbase Earhart, then surely we can have a Starbase named after Hannow G. Trailer, the inventor of the self-fidgeting frammistat?
For the exact format of letters+numbers, we have Starbase G-6, plus the close Starbase 39 Sierra...
As suggested, keeping a starship with such a low number active could be a matter of great pride to Starfleet.
Nothing to be done about that, I guess. Except of course deciding that some of the 8s are really 6s or 9s or 0s, and vice versa.
So, the race is on?
Timo Saloniemi
Could be just a data entry error. Likely to be fixed in the next release.
Well, I was thinking about how there could be three or two ships with the same registry. I am thinking that maybe Starfleet had the ships renamed three or two times in that year, and that the registries stayed the same in all cases.
With four ships' registries unknown, I can't say for definite, but I think the Ticonderoga has the highest canonical registry with NCC-87270.
With four ships' registries unknown, I can't say for definite, but I think the Ticonderoga has the highest canonical registry with NCC-87270.
So, the race is on?
Not neccesarily. One starship is sent to study China, the other is sent to Rome. If this is an iron-age species, those two cultures could be fundamentally different, assuming they even belong to the same species and are aware of one another's existence. Starfleet may choose to maintain contact with one or both of them, depending on the evaluations of the mission team.
...Which takes us right back to the recurring arguments about UFP membership or First Contact criteria. If Rome and China exist separately, can either be contacted, or should both be left to work out their differences or annihilate the competition before contact with a sole sovereign representative is made?
Let's remember, though, that this list is considered evidence that something funny is going on in Starfleet - that a group of evil conspirators is sending Starfleet scurrying, engaging in unnecessary evacuations and wild goose chases, in order to create a window of opportunity for an invasion. Sending two ships to an assignment that would only require one leaves the invasion corridor one ship short of defenses... And indicating that there are three different starships where only NCC-19585 really patrols will lull the organization into a false sense of security.
Timo Saloniemi
Let's remember, though, that this list is considered evidence that something funny is going on in Starfleet - that a group of evil conspirators is sending Starfleet scurrying, engaging in unnecessary evacuations and wild goose chases, in order to create a window of opportunity for an invasion. Sending two ships to an assignment that would only require one leaves the invasion corridor one ship short of defenses... And indicating that there are three different starships where only NCC-19585 really patrols will lull the organization into a false sense of security.
Timo Saloniemi
Planetary unity is normally a requisite for membership, but CONTACT is a different matter. Remember, Starfleet had CONTACT with the Kes and the Pritt, but there was some controversy over whether it made sense to admit one nation but not the other in Federation membership. I kind of doubt the Federation would have, even if the Kesprit hadn't been a bunch of cold-warring jackasses.
Well there is that, but the orders IIRC are meant to appear somewhat plausible when taken by themselves, but add up to a larger pattern when considered in context with others.
The pattern might actually be more subtle than this: both ships sent to the same planet because one ship has an infected command staff and the other does not. It's rare for starships to just happen to be in the same sector, let alone given the same assignment, so this might be a good excuse to have one captain invite the other over for coffee.
Or when a ship is decommissioned, Starfleet simply recycles the registration number to the next ship scheduled for commissioning.Or a brand new ship with an improbably low registry number.
Since the Voyager crew didn't bat an eyelid at the USS Dauntless NX-01-A, especially in light of Enterprise NX-01, I don't think NCC-42 is a biggie whether it's an in-joke or not.