Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

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  1. fireproof78

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    He does give a damn. Just not the same way all fans look at it.
     
  2. Dukhat

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    Abrams didn’t design the ship. Ryan Church did.
     
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    I'm talking about the rendering of the video, not the design.

    It certainly is. It was dumb the first time back in 2009, and it's been driven into the ground by a succession of fanboy artists who think they're clever - or just figure it's a good way to get some views on Youtube.

    That's uncalled for. I think that show is terrible, myself, and haven't watched it in years, but what of it? And just exactly what do you mean by "strange crew," anyway?
     
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    True, though the Art of Star Trek (2009) book does show that Ryan Church's earlier designs were more conservative, and he was regularly directed by JJ Abrams to push it into a more extreme direction (these annotations are Abrams's):

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    I have to admit, lukewarm as I am on the Abrams movies in general and the Enterprise design in particular, I did like some of Church's original concepts that never made it to screen. Like the idea that the Enterprise's engines would glow from within when at warp, allowing us to see the warp coils and plasma – I thought that would have been a cool evolution of the traditional glowing grilles:

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  5. Nerys Myk

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    So, like Burton and Amos in "Roots".
     
  6. Dukhat

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    I’ve never seen Roots so I’ll take your word for it.
     
  7. Nerys Myk

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    If you know who John Amos and Levar Burton are....
     
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    Venom Geek Media on YT is pretty good too.
     
  9. ExtremeSail

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    SNW Enterprise interior to the Kelvinprise exterior would be peak mid century retro futurism inspired 23rd Century to me.

    That 50's/60's fighter jet/experimental aircraft look is pretty sexy.

    The ships this season look so good, I'm particularly taken by the Intrepid; can't wait for that size chart!
     
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    The New Jersey just shows that the design still works with modern FX.
     
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  11. Nerys Myk

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    Looked static and underendered to me.
     
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    mm, no.
     
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    Yeah, it wasn't a flattering presentation of the design, and there were some artifacts that suggest it was a low-detail model (the panel-y metallic texturing, the segmentation of the saucer around the bridge dome). It's strange, either of the TOS-R models or even the Defiant from ENT were cleaner, more detailed, and more precisely faithful to the original design, never mind fan-made and fan-adjacent versions.

    I'm still curious where this model came from. It's not from STO, it's not any of the ones that have been in any of the earlier shows. It's got some idiosyncratic details that should make it easy to identify if it's ever been used publicly, there are extra windows along the saucer edge and engineering hull, the missing lighted rectangles, and the extra formation lights on the top. It itches at me, I feel like I've seen it before.
     
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  14. drt

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    The curves and proportions seem off, too...

    As much as people are excited to see it, I'm kinda disappointed it's so crappy.

    I also think it should have been a canonical ship, such as Yorktown, which would have been a more fitting tribute.
     
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  15. Tuskin38

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    There's missing lights, too many windows, unsmooth hull.
     
  16. HotRod

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    Eh... I dunno about that. If I'm being honest, it kinda looks like crap. Low detail ships never really look great in CGI. Always makes them look like something outta Babylon 5.
     
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    What's odd is the hull is smooth above and below that segmented ring, bounded by panel lines, which makes me think it was an intentional detail. Why they would do that I don't know, but maybe they just wanted to make it look like a class variant.
     
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  18. Nerys Myk

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    They weren't gonna spend a whole lot of time or money on a few quick shots for an Easter Egg.
     
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  19. Airmandan

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    Technically they didn't say what ship class the New Jersey was supposed to be. Sombra class anyone?
     
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  20. Ray Hardgrit

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    Some of the changes for the New Jersey seem deliberate, like the windows, and others seem like they ran out of time, like the nacelles. It's not the most impressive depiction of a Constitution-class ship I've ever seen to be honest, but I can live with the TOS Enterprise being prettier than her sisters!

    I'm just glad they're making a firm statement that no one's trying to retcon the TOS design, or say that it's too dated to put on TV in 2023.