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Starfleet Battleships?

freelancephotog

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Any Idea Why Star fleet wouldn't want at least one Heavy "BattleShip" something that could go toe to toe with the Borg and be much more likely to survive. heres my Idea for something I call the U.S.S Spartan

A secret division of Starfleet is tasked with creating the Spartan Class Starship. The Spartan Class ship although physically slightly larger than the Galaxy class ships were named for their less accommodating construction. The Spartans are a Ship built for battle. Their Decks are significantly closer together therefore allowing more space to be utilized for ships systems. The design of the ship will be feature 4 nacelle sections (each containing 2 separate nacelles as in the Prometheus class. The Spartan Class will not be built to be able to separate the saucer section as the Galaxy and previous classes. The increased number of Nacelles would allow its engines to take more damage and still be able to maintain warp travel.
The skin of the ship will be covered with layered quantum reactive and ablative armor. The new Quantum Reactive Amour will feature phase and quantum sensitive multi-phasic charges that can, in many cases detect torpedoes with phase or temporal emitters that previously penetrated shields and the skin of the ship to detonate inside it. These chares will be placed over the Ablative armor in above key systems
The Ships shields will be feature 40 900 MW regenerative shield emitters designed to allow continuous output of a matter Antimatter Reactor. In Battle situations one of the ships 2 reactors can supply shields allowing for a yield roughly 3 times that of the sovereign class while still being able to accommodate all other ships functions including warp drive.
The Spartan class will feature 2 of General Electric’s type 8 matter anti matter reactors allowing one to be used exclusively for warp speed travel. They can be cross connected to supply power to any system in the ship but will normally be subdivided into the Drive and ships systems (shields, Weapons, Sensors) reactors. This will allow all ships systems to run at full capacity even while the ship is traveling at maximum warp of 9.9 (Up to 12 hours) the ship will have a normal cruising speed of Warp 8.5
The impulse engines of the Spartan Class will be similar to that of the sovereign class. The Spartan Class will not be as fast or Maneuverable as the Sovereign class but will still have a power to weight ratio considered excessive by previous standards with one of the engines alone being capable of driving the ship at .20c and having an upper ceiling .6c with all three engines.
The primary armament of the Spartan class will be located on each side of the saucer section in the form of 4 (Port / Stbd forward Port / Stbd Aft turret loaded quantum / transphasic torpedo system) The firing rate of the turret launchers will be roughly 3 times that of the launchers on the Defiant class with a slightly higher load and yield than those on the Sovereign class. There will also be a swivel mounted quantum torpedo Launcher forward and Aft. The maximum Load out of the Spartan Class ship will be 1200 Quantum or TransPhasic Torpedoes The Phaser system on the sovereign class will feature 16 type XII Phaser arrays and one forward faced much larger unit that will have approximately triple the output of the type XII, these phasers will typically draw their power directly from the secondary matter antimatter reactor.
The most notable feature on the Spartan Class will be the inclusion of a Cloaking system. Readouts from Shinzon’s vessel during its Encounter with the Enterprise E were used to create a nearly perfect cloaking device that will help the Spartan accomplish its primary mission. With The power shift of the Romulan empire and the increasing need for a tactical advantage with the Borg a modification to the treaty allowed for up to 10 federation ships to be outfitted with cloaking devices.
The primary mission of the Spartan class will be to approach Borg ships and perform detailed scans and plot weaknesses of different classes of ships and then disable these vessels and capture any technology possible. Specifically Star Fleet endeavors to capture graviton torpedoes for the sake of developing a compliment and more effective defense against them.
 
The Enterprise E is basically Starfleet's version of a battleship, a large heavily armed combatant.
 
I'm sure there is a really good idea behind that wall of text.

Could you endeavor to format it a bit better please?
 
So is this one post all you're going to write about the subject? If not, I'd suggest moving it to the fan fiction or "Future of Trek" sections.
 
To the OP-I'm not going to bother reading your post. But I will response to your thread title. The Galaxy along with the Sovereign class starships are definitely battleships even if Starfleet doesn't try to admit it. They are very heavily armed. Even the connie was heavily armed for its era.
 
The Federation simply doesn't refer to their starships in battle terms during peacetime. Galaxy-Class and Sovereign-Class ships are battleships in war situations, but Explorers/Heavy Explorers the rest of the time.
 
I agree with what others have said about formatting, but you also have what I regard as a bigger problem: the OP is useless without pics! I want to see this ship, before I can even begin to care about specs.
 
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voyager was the most powerful ship in the fleet - pound for pound.

considering all it was available to do in the delta quadrant. a lot of fans say the defiant was the 'war dog' of the federation, but it was destroyed in one shot by the breen. look at everything voyager did and it managed to come home. all those enhancements by the borg made the difference.
 
^ thats a cool pic but those Borg enhancements were just biological weapons designed for Species 8472 bioships. They are not are going to do anything against an inorganic starship like a Klingon Bird of Prey or Romulan Warbird.
 
As several in this thread have mentioned, ships like the Galaxy, Nebula, and Sovereign essentially are Starfleet's battleships. Starfleet and the UFP simply dislike using such aggressive terminology (hence, the Defiant class being an "escort").

The DS9 Tech Manual noted that during the Dominion War, a number of Galaxys were pulled from their normal production lines, and launched with up to 65% of their internal volume empty. The idea is that once propulsion, shields and weapons, basic support systems, etc. were up to spec, the ships were sent out to fight. All those science labs, extra crew quarters, rec facilities, and other such things were ignored; once the ship was combat-ready, off it went. Now, the TM is of course not canon, but this does suggest a certain "modularity" to Starfleet ships that I've always thought made a lot of sense. The Dominion War necessitated rush jobs, so this process was somewhat more haphazard than it might ordinarily be, but the idea is that many of these ships can be optimized for different mission assignments via medium- to large-scale component swapping. A "standard" Galaxy can certainly be an effective combatant, but it is meant to be a multirole explorer, with equipment considerations for exploration, scientific research, diplomatic transport, etc. Wartime comes, and suddenly that same Galaxy is refitted to be optimized for combat specifically.

As to the original ship described in the first post... sorry OP, but it's a bit (actually, make that a lot) too "wankish". All those numbers and comparisons to the Sovereign... And stuff that we never see ships with, like 2 warp cores. It just screams "This will be the most awesomest bestest ship EVAR!", and I find the reference to the cloak from the Scimitar sort of amusing, since the "perfect cloak" was part (but only part) of what contributed to the Scimitar being so stupid. It was this ridiculously powerful super ship that just came out of freaking NOWHERE.
...2 of General Electric’s type 8 matter anti matter reactors....
So GE is supplying Starfleet with its warp cores...hat would explain why Starfleet's warp drives fail at the drop of a hat.
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voyager was the most powerful ship in the fleet - pound for pound.
Hardly.
a lot of fans say the defiant was the 'war dog' of the federation,
It wasn't "fans" so much as it was characters in the shows themselves telling us with no ambiguity that the ship was designed purely for combat.
but it was destroyed in one shot by the breen.
That's not even close to accurate.
look at everything voyager did and it managed to come home.
Relatively little of what Voyager survived had to do with pure tactical capability (which is what I'm taking "most powerful" to mean in this context, since we are talking about the idea of Starfleet warships). There is no evidence in the series that NO other Starfleet class wouldn't have done as well or better (though certainly, it's also true that some would have done worse; see "Equinox").
all those enhancements by the borg made the difference.
Except that they were all gone after "The Gift". No situation that Voyager survived, or fight that it won/lost, either after early season 4 or before "Scorpion", was in any way affected by those Borg mods.
 
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There isn't much discussion in Star Trek about battleships because, with the exception of a handful of DS9 episodes, the show isn't about warfare. Trek just isn't military sci-fi so there was never any reason to classify ships as battleships, etc.

That said, the Defiant was clearly designed primarily for combat, and the briefly glimpsed Akira was, iirc, also meant to be a Borg-fighting ship.
 
We know that the Klingons already consider the Constitution class a 'battle-cruiser' from The Search for Spock. We also have the 'heavy-cruiser' class graphic from the same movie.
 
Starfleet reserves the right to call their ships whatever they want. In the end, it's just their classification system. It doesn't change the fact that the majority of those starships can be called upon for defense of the Federation and its interests when necessary, but I think the Defiant-class was unique in that it was the first solely dedicated for defense while other starship designs had defensive capabilities as part of their overall design, IMO.
 
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