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But seriously, I don't understand how networks keep hiring Fuller, only to shit-can him when he makes the same mess all over again.

They didn't. Fuller's career totally imploded in 2017, and he only recently started working on something which has an IMDB credit again.

Whatever happened, he seems to have self-blacklisted himself in Hollywood for the better part of a decade.
 
Thing is, the blue Disco uniforms were not gender neutral, given the number of stripes on the shoulder piping differs between men and women, men have five stripes, women have four. Which seemed an odd decision to make to me, how do they determine how man stripes a non-binary person has? Or an alien from a race that could have multiple genders, or even just one?

The Star Trek Discovery costume designer Gersha Phillips said that the Discovery uniforms were "gender neutral", "non-binary", "open for all" and "empowering". Those are her talking points.

Make of that what you will. :shrug:

Digital Spy: Here's why Star Trek: Discovery's empowering costumes are gender neutral
Memory Alpha: Gersha Phillips
 
I think it's great they didn't try and sex up the female uniforms. Admittedly, they didn't quite do that after TOS, but all the Berman shows found ways to circumvent it with female characters who didn't wear the uniform (DS9 perhaps the least, but you could argue even they did it with side characters like Leeta).
 
I think it's great they didn't try and sex up the female uniforms. Admittedly, they didn't quite do that after TOS, but all the Berman shows found ways to circumvent it with female characters who didn't wear the uniform (DS9 perhaps the least, but you could argue even they did it with side characters like Leeta).
I mean, the Discovery uniforms line right up from Enterprise to the Kelvin to The Motion Picture.
 
I think it's great they didn't try and sex up the female uniforms. Admittedly, they didn't quite do that after TOS, but all the Berman shows found ways to circumvent it with female characters who didn't wear the uniform (DS9 perhaps the least, but you could argue even they did it with side characters like Leeta).
True, though at least with Leeta and the dabo girls, their outfits make sense given their profession. Go to any casino and you'll see what I mean.

The two that really didn't make sense was Seven and T'Pol... especially after she got her Starfleet commission in season 4.. (And Seven was rockin' it with the Starfleet uniform in "RELATIVITY".)
 
I mean, the Discovery uniforms line right up from Enterprise to the Kelvin to The Motion Picture.

Actually, the timeline (from what we currently know) is:

1. ENT uniforms
2. Kelvin uniforms
3. 'The Cage' uniforms
4. DSC season 1 uniforms
5. DSC season 2 uniforms worn by Enterprise crew
6. SNW uniforms
7. "WNMHGB" uniforms (same as 'The Cage' uniforms)
8. TOS uniforms
9. TMP uniforms

No offense, but there's little consistency between any of these, other than the obviously recolored DSC S2 Enterprise uniforms made from the S1 uniforms. The DSC/SNW uniforms are quite shoehorned in.
 
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Actually, the timeline (from what we currently know) is:

1. ENT uniforms
2. Kelvin uniforms
3. 'The Cage' uniforms
4. DSC season 1 uniforms
5. DSC season 2 uniforms worn by Enterprise crew
6. SNW uniforms
7. "WNMHGB" uniforms (same as 'The Cage' uniforms)
8. TOS uniforms
9. TMP uniforms

No offense, but there's little consistency between any of these, other than the obviously recolored DSC S2 Enterprise uniforms made from the S1 uniforms.
As per usual, I treat TOS as its own thing, and would not regard the timeline as thus.

The colors, and concepts of the uniforms from ENT to TMP flow well enough like real world military analogues, with understandable adjustments to accoutrements.
 
As per usual, I treat TOS as its own thing, and would not regard the timeline as thus.

If by that you mean that TOS has been retconned away in favor of the Discoverse, I would agree with you.

The colors, and concepts of the uniforms from ENT to TMP flow well enough like real world military analogues, with understandable adjustments to accoutrements.

Again, I'm not sure I would agree that it flows as well as you think, but that's a subjective opinion.
 
The original pitch by Bryan Fuller was an anthology show, each season would be set in a different time period with a new crew, the first time period being the 23rd century. I imagine would have been too expensive, so it was decided to just stick to the 23rd Century.

He was fired or quit or something shortly before filming, but not before Pre-production, which is why we still got those new Klingon designs. He was the one that wanted them and their ships redesigned, and he's also why most the Starfleet ships are flat-ish with square nacelles.

From what little has been said, in his version of Season 1, the mirror universe wasn't involved at all, but instead an alternate universe where Burnham never mutinied. The crossover was also going to be in the first half of the season instead of the second.
 
Actually, the timeline (from what we currently know) is:

1. ENT uniforms
2. Kelvin uniforms
3. 'The Cage' uniforms
4. DSC season 1 uniforms
5. DSC season 2 uniforms worn by Enterprise crew
6. SNW uniforms
7. "WNMHGB" uniforms (same as 'The Cage' uniforms)
8. TOS uniforms
9. TMP uniforms

No offense, but there's little consistency between any of these, other than the obviously recolored DSC S2 Enterprise uniforms made from the S1 uniforms. The DSC/SNW uniforms are quite shoehorned in.
SNW has a photo of Pike and April in what looks like a hybrid of The Cage & WNMHGB uniforms.

There’s also an odd variant from a deleted flashback from “Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach.”
 
Wasn't Georgiou wearing the DISCO S1 uniform in the flashback scenes when she helped Saru escape from Kaminar, which would predate the Pike/April picture by a few years.

Disco also suggested that the TOS type uniform were exclusive to the Constitution Fleet circuit, so potential divergence post-Kelvin uniforms into Disco and Tos type uniforms with Tos eventually becoming dominant.
 
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