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News Starfleet Academy Coming to P+

If it were up to me, and thank God it isn't, I would have set the series during the very early days of the Federation. With all the love TNG, DS9, and VOY have been getting through Picard, and TOS getting plenty of love from SNW and DSC, I can't help but feel that Enterprise is getting left out.

Setting the series in the aftermath of the Romulan War and the early days of the Federation would present a multitude of opportunities for melodrama and teen angst, being they want a series for young adults.

You could have kids following in the footsteps of parents killed in the war. You have an era of rebuilding from the devastation while looking ahead to the stars and finally being able to explore the galaxy. You would have a massive shipbuilding program and the expansion of the Federation and an opportunity to examine the roll of Starfleet. Are they a military or are they explorers? You could add political intrigue and cultures learning to work together. Vulcan, Andorians, Tellarites and Humans forming lifelong friendships!

You could have opportunities to bring in guest stars from Enterprise. Guest lectures from Ambassador Soval. Combat training from Professor Shran. Visits from Admiral Archer. I mean...... come on!
This is pretty much what I was hoping to see from an SFA series some day, but given ENT's relative lack of love and the fact that they can reuse a lot of DSC assets, this makes more financial sense. I just really liked the idea of a group of disparate beings coming together as part of the inaugural class of Starfleet Academy, being the first ones trying to figure out how to make this whole new integrated Starfleet work and all the stumbling blocks they'd encounter along the way.

I will say that if it couldn't be set in the 22nd century, then the 32nd century is definitely the next best thing. Given the state of the galaxy at this point, with the academy only just starting to come back online after a century or so, should offer up a lot of the same vibe I was imagining for a 22nd century Starfleet Academy.
 
Didn't want to go through all the thread of people complaining about a show that won't even start filming for over a year, but in case it wasn't posted - Tawny Newsome, the voice of Mariner on Lower Decks, is part of the writer's room for this academy show.
 
The Newsome news did get posted a while back. Fortunately the news that Lower Decks had been renewed was posted first or else I would've been worried.
 
Didn't want to go through all the thread of people complaining about a show that won't even start filming for over a year, but in case it wasn't posted - Tawny Newsome, the voice of Mariner on Lower Decks, is part of the writer's room for this academy show.
Yeah I saw that, that's interesting but all star trek actors at some point try to branch out and try their luck at writing or directing. Does anyone know if this is animated or live action?
 
I'm not too surprised by this announcement, its been rumored/guessed at for a while now. I won't be watching because I hate the Discovery/Future stuff anyway, and I don't care for the premise, but it makes sense as a DSC replacement. I hope its one that DSC fans end up liking, its nice to be in a Trek era were all different kinds of fans get to have shows to enjoy.
 
Well, if it is as good as Prodigy… :shrug:

I hope that this series is not set in the 32nd century, though the writers may want a blank slate free from canon constraints. So much time has passed between the 25th and 32nd century that the writers can pretty much do whatever they want and not worry too much about getting their ‘facts’ right. This can be both good and also bad, all the elements that make something ‘Star Trek’ and not just generic sci-fi could be hacked beyond recognition. I for one am a Star Trek fan, not a sci-fi fan, so let’s hope that this series continues to be recognisably ‘Star Trek’. :techman:
 
Well, if it is as good as Prodigy… :shrug:

I hope that this series is not set in the 32nd century, though the writers may want a blank slate free from canon constraints. So much time has passed between the 25th and 32nd century that the writers can pretty much do whatever they want and not worry too much about getting their ‘facts’ right. This can be both good and also bad, all the elements that make something ‘Star Trek’ and not just generic sci-fi could be hacked beyond recognition. I for one am a Star Trek fan, not a sci-fi fan, so let’s hope that this series continues to be recognisably ‘Star Trek’. :techman:
32nd century makes the most sense from a production point. They've got all the props, costumes, and 3D models from Discovery which will lower the costs of starting up. It also means it can be less reliant on references and nostalgia, which some fans might not like but I prefer.

My biggest want is for it to be less human-centric. Of the new live-action Treks, we've only had a handful of alien main characters, and Saru is the only one who looks that alien. I want to see some cool new species with interesting cultures.
 
32nd century makes the most sense from a production point. They've got all the props, costumes, and 3D models from Discovery which will lower the costs of starting up. It also means it can be less reliant on references and nostalgia, which some fans might not like but I prefer.

My biggest want is for it to be less human-centric. Of the new live-action Treks, we've only had a handful of alien main characters, and Saru is the only one who looks that alien. I want to see some cool new species with interesting cultures.
The 32nd century has never felt like Star Trek to me, it has felt a bit too generic dystopian sci fi like, a bit like ‘Mad Max’ in space, however this could change according to how this century is written in the future such as in Disco season 5.

If fans do not like references and nostalgia then they might as well just make another generic sci fi show that is not Star Trek. Hopefully sci fi shows are not being launched under the banner of Star Trek just for ‘brand recognition’ and an already established core fanbase. If they make this series *too* disconnected they might as well just call it Star Crew: Star Navy Academy.

References and nostalgia are irrelevant to new fans as these things are just as unknown to them as anything new that writers may come up with. Some people assume that including past elements confuses a new audience, I disagree; I think that bad writing confuses an audience. Established canon and characters should be embraced, they are part of what Star Trek is at its core and set this franchise apart from other sci-fi.

A generic sci fi show may flop, but whack Star Trek in to the title, or establish the show as a part of the franchise, and it will sell. Hopefully this will not become the norm in the future…. It would cheapen the brand.
 
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Some people assume that including past elements confuses a new audience, I disagree; I think that bad writing confuses an audience. Established canon and characters should be embraced, they are part of what Star Trek is at its core and set this franchise apart from other sci-fi.
In my personal experience, whenever I've gotten into something for the first time or after missing a lot of content, seeing references to things I don't know about makes the world feel more fleshed out and gives it a genuine history. A history I'm often curious to check out for myself. Then I get to go back to the older stories and see the origins of things I'm familiar with from later episodes, which can work just as well as getting the references the first time around. An episode like Space Seed feels a lot more monumental if you've seen Wrath of Khan first.

This worked for me when I started Doctor Who, as I jumped aboard during the Matt Smith era and then later marathoned the classic series to see the introduction of things like UNIT and the Master. Also The Mandalorian got me to marathon Clone Wars and Rebels, which I'm very thankful of. Oh, plus later Star Trek episodes got me to watch TOS, which I loved.

This is part of the reason I'm so absolutely against retcons, because it cheats new viewers out of these experiences in an attempt to make things more appealing and accessible. So I hope the show pulls in teens who've never seen Star Trek before and I hope it gives them reason to be curious about what came before.
 
Indeed. And my comment should not be me disparaging the season. It's doing a decent job. But, it isn't setting anything new on the table to craft from. It's not boldly going anywhere but reflecting on the past. That's not the future.
My feeling too. After the entertainment factor goes, there's an empty feeling with the season.
 
A few things. I will keep an open mind, but I would be very disappointed if it was a Grey's Anatomy.

Second, as a Prodigy fan I am a little worried. Will they have 2 shows about young cadets?

I am not excited. But, I wasn't excited about Prodigy either. I will keep an open mind since it is Trek and the first five NuTrek shows have been fantastic (sorry Discovery haters).

Personally, I would rather have had a Section 31 or Legacy show announced.

I do hope it is in 32nd century. It could star Tilly. We can explore more of 32nd Century and it would be more interesting because of the Burn.
 
For me I'm not excited at all. If this is destined to be good, I'd rather it take place in the 25th century or earlier . If it is destined to be bad or not my cup of tea, then I actually prefer it to be in the 32nd century . Atleast it would be unlikely they would royally freck up Canon in that case.

I will give it a chance either way. But not excited at all .
 
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