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Star Wars vs StarTrek...

K'riq Sa

Commodore
This is a question concerning other fan-verses, and which side would they take in a battle of Klingons against the Federation. After talking to several people concerning the quesion of sides, I am stumped. Who would be on whose side?


Star Wars
501st Legion-the Dark Force
The Rebel Forces-the Light Force

Babalon 5
I must admit, I don't know their Characters

Stargate SG1
Stargate Command
the Ori

Battlestar Galaticia
Again I must admit, I don't know their Characters either
the Cylons



what other multi-verses are out there, that may come up? anybody want to take a stab at it?....



k'riq
 
:guffaw:

Yeah, thatdoes explain who's side the Star Wars fans will be on but what about Stargate, B5, BSG'ers?....











k'riq
 
I don't know much about Babylon 5, either, so I'll leave that alone.

Star Wars:
The Empire and the Rebels/Republic would both side with the Federation, although the Empire and the Federation would end up going at it after the Klingons were defeated. The Vong would probably side with the Klingons, or enter the war as a third faction.

Stargate:
Stargate Command would join with Starfleet Command, of course, as would the Tokra. The Asgard would probably stay out of it. The Ori would enter as a third faction - they are completely incompatible with both sides. The Wraith might side with the Klingons, if they can't feed off of them, but the Klingons might not like their style, so they might be a 4th faction. The Go'uld would probably be willing to work with the Wraith. The Jaffa could go either way - there'd be a lot for them to identify with in the Klingon culture, but in the end, they are human.

NuBSG:
Cavil's Cylons would work with the Romulans to take advantage of the war. The rebel Cylons and the Colonials would work with Starfleet.

BSG:
The Colonials would work with Starfleet. The Cylons would try to dupe the Klingons, probably disguising Baltar as one to go among them ;), but would really be going for their own aims.

Firefly:
All factions (except Reavers, who don't really work with anyone) would work with Starfleet. Some of the Alliance's governmental leaders would revolt and create a problem, but it wouldn't last long.

Honorverse:
All factions would side with Starfleet.

Honestly, I think in most cases where a fictional faction isn't just completely incompatible with Starfleet due to being pure-dagnasty-evil, or of a strong tradition of honorable but somewhat barbaric combat, they are going to side with Starfleet. Starfleet has the advantage of being much more inclusive of diverse cultures and ways.

Better scenarios, IMHO, would be the Federation versus the Dominion, the Federation against the MU Empire, or the Federation versus the Star Wars Republic (old or new).
 
Well I guess it depends on which weapons are allowed to be used as well.
For example in Star Wars if they had access to a Death Star or Sun Crusher it would give them a great advantage over the Klingons.
In Stargate if they had a fully powered Odyssey, Atlantis herself, and Anubis' UberHatak it would also give then a great advantage over the Klingons.
 
Well I guess it depends on which weapons are allowed to be used as well.
For example in Star Wars if they had access to a Death Star or Sun Crusher it would give them a great advantage over the Klingons.
In Stargate if they had a fully powered Odyssey, Atlantis herself, and Anubis' UberHatak it would also give then a great advantage over the Klingons.
We were just talking about what sides everyone would take. If you want to get into who'd have the tech advantage, then there's almost no one who is worth bringing into the Klingon/Federation fight unless they have time to incorporate the additional technologies. Transporters alone spoil the whole thing: sure, you can't beam things through shields intact, but what if you don't care about intact?:

"Mr. Data, lock cargo transporters on to their main computer core."

"But sir, their shields are up. We won't be able to bring it across intact."

"I know, Mr. Data. Please beam it to 15 meters off their bow."

:devil:

And obviously, it doesn't have to be the computer. You could scramble the crud out of any key components, and leave them too crippled to do anything back before they can say "Picard Manuever". Odyssey might be able to pull something with the Asgard transporters and shields, but that's debatable, and totally a matter of "my favorite is better than your favorite" interpretative na na na boo boo.
 
I know a a little of star wars... their tech i'm kind of familiar with, less so with their factions admittadly.

I think that the "dark side" would side with no one, settling only for conquest (i have seen all the movies). The republic and rebels would side with the Federation and it's allies as it's motives are almost the same.

However, getting into the weaponry, for the MOST PART, the standard battle weaponry seems relatively inferior to anything in the Federation. Yes there is the deathstar, but that thing seems to be relatively stationary and slow. The federation would detect that thing lightyears away and send a force to destroy it.

From what I've seen, all factions seem to use lasers, or some form of laser. I've heard star wars fans claim incredible power outputs for their weapons, but i've never seen any hard proof other than the large planetary weapons such as the death star. And as far as physics go, a laser is a laser is a laser. You could add some kind of particle component to it i suppose, but it's still light amplification technology at its base, and that technology has LONG since been antiquated by anything Starfleet as to offer.

Their sheilds seem realatively weak too...http://www.trekbbs.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=2651265 .... this site goes into more canonical references than I could however.

As far as tactical systems go, I haven't really seen any hard numbers for outputs of their beam weapons, missiles, or bombs, only inconsistant evidence. Again visit that site.

The fighter shuttles too seem to have no shields whatsoever, which to me would be easy pickens for Starfleet and it's allies. Phaser and disrupter arrays seem to be able to multi-target, easily picking off those silly fighters at will. Also, in Star Wars, it seems that they still rely on turrets, another technology that has been antiquated by Starfleet with the much more versatile arrays. Take a turret out it ceases to function. Take an array emitter out, the second back up still fucntions as does the rest of the linked array.

Also, unlike Starfleet, the main ships aren't usually the ones in main battle, and they are large...VERY large. A Federation ship could run circles around it punching small holes here and there around critical systems....death by a thousand cuts so to speak.

For these reasons I believe that the republic would side with the Federation...sheilds not withstanding, they now have armor generators and ablative armor as well.

However, the one thing that the "Dark Side" does have above any Federatioin ally is numbers...they have the ability to swarm like ants....this would post a signifigant problem if they invaded as Starfleet can't be everywhere. It seems they might have to consolidate their worlds a bit or risk occupation. Howsever, a ship could simply go to an invaded world and beam the invaders off the planet as soon as they've destroyed the enemy vessel, which from what i've seen would be relatively easy.

http://www.trekbbs.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=2651265

go to that site it's pretty decent and bi-partisan..
 
I don't think the Empire would side with the Federation. If anything they would enter as a third party and start attacking anybody and everybody. Well, maybe the pathetic Empire as it was under Pellaeon might but an Empire with a Sith ruler (possibly even an Imperial Knight ruler) would go to dominate any other power.
 
no the empire wouldn't side with anyone i think. the republic would side with the Federation and it's allies though.
 
I tend to think of any ST Vs. SW site as biased by default, period.

So, in order for me to work out any aggressions, I just go play the ST Vs. SW mod for Armada 1. It's done wonders for my graying hair!
 
Why do people apply real mathematics and engineering standards to made up shit?!

Although I concede that the Empire would wipe the floor with the 23rd/24th century United Federation of Planets due to vastly superior FTL and communications, in conjunction to raw manufacturing capabilities (maneuverability & quantity quashing the Federation's advantages in teleportation and replication).
 
The Imperial fleet is full of dunderheads and cannon fodder (with few exceptions), Starfleet is full of highly-trained multi-skilled experts (with few exceptions). Once Starfleet disable a Star destroyer (and they would), it wouldn't take them long to suss out how to destroy them with ease. Plus if ISD's have to worry about asteroids how good can their shields really be?
 
It's tech fantasy: they're all idiots. At best, it'll be MAD. At worst, they'll spend forever butting heads.
 
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