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Star Wars: The Clone Wars 2x15 Senate Murders

Caliburn24 said:
It would be marvelous if the show remembers the opening scrawl from Revenge of the Sith and the mention of, "Heroes on both sides," and presents some sympathetic Seperatists, Mon Calamari or Bothans perhaps.

And just as an aside I was thrilled about Mon Mothma being in this episode, until I realized it was Satine.
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That has been a problem of this show so far. They've yet to show the rank-and-file of the Seperatist movement. The ones who were just fed up with Republic corruption and wanted a better solution.

Although I always thought the rank-and-file Seperatists lost all moral high ground when they decided to join forces with the very corruption they bemoaned, ie the trade and commerce guilds.

Dooku and Grievous sure as hell aren't heroes.
 
I'd almost call this episode filler, but I'm not sure what it would be filling up.

Pretty so-so stand alone episode, compared to recent Ahsoka's "solo" outing.

The Inspector Divo character seemed a bit too cartoony, even for this show.

Also, for me, the close-up shots are a mixed bag in animation. Sometimes they look decent, other times I just disconnect from the fantasy and picture an actor in a recording studio that's not meshing with what I'm seeing.

The "rise of the bounty hunters" theme to season they spoke of last summer seems largely empty marketing at this point. A Durge arc and then what...I guess the Mandalorians count...but they are really just their world's revolutionaries.
 
I'm pretty sure "rise of the bounty hunters" was only referring to the opening 5 ep arc with Cad Bane. (Durge is the big guy from the '03 micro-series he hasn't appeared on this show yet)
 
I'm sure the whole "Rise of the Bounty Hunters" thing was thought up by the Cartoon Network marketing people who made the ads, and didn't reflect the actual intent of the show's makers. The creators of a show often have little or no control over how the network decides to promote it.
 
the newest issue of star wars insider showed some images from upcoming episodes of the Clone wars. These images give a good indication that there is an upcoming story arc dealing heavily with the bounty hunters.
 
Yeah, in two weeks there's an episode called "Bounty Hunters" coming up, focusing on Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka reluctantly teaming up with four bounty hunters to protect this guy from those pirates that captured Count Dooku last season.
 
Christopher said:
Caliburn24 said:
First, Padme looks like an idiot for supporting the Anti-Clone Production Bill.
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On the contrary, she looks prophetic. Let's keep the bigger picture in mind: Palpatine/Sidious engineered the entire Separatist movement and Clone Wars in order to build the power base he eventually used to overthrow the Republic and establish the Empire. The breeding of a vast clone army is a key part of Palpatine's scheme to seize power. And I think Amidala was already suspicious of Palpatine's ambitions back in Attack of the Clones, which preceded this series. I think she, Farr, Organa, and Mothma recognize that there may be an ulterior danger in allowing the Clone Army to become too large.
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Except that it was her who got the whole ball rolling by declaring a vote of no confidence in Chancellor Valorum, thus leading to his ouster, and the election of Palpatine as Chancellor, along with Jar-Jar's voting for said clone army. She has to take some of the blame for what is happening.

Cutting troop production when you do not have a clear cut victory on the horizon seems idiotic to me.

Maybe the existing troop levels were already large enough according to military analysts, and the request for additional production was seen as an unnecessary waste of resources. After all, the sponsor of the bill to increase troop production was a Kaminoan, a member of the culture that creates the clones. It's no different from a US senator trying to get a plum military contract for a defense contractor in his state, getting hundreds of millions of dollars poured into his state's coffers to produce million-dollar widgets that the military doesn't actually need and that you could get for a buck fifty at the corner hardware store. It's pork-barrel spending. I'm sure the argument of Farr and Amidala's bloc was that Kamino was more interested in its own profit than in the actual military need. And pouring too much money into troop production could've diverted necessary funds from other parts of the war effort such as ship construction, medical aid, refugee aid, etc.
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To paraphrase Ambassador Kosh Naranek of the Vorlon Empire: 'The avalanche has started; it is too late for the pebbles to argue'.
 
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Dusty Ayres said:
To paraphrase Ambassador Kosh Naranek of the Vorlon Empire: 'The avalanche has started; it is too late for the pebbles to argue'.
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It is deeply chilling to assert that the existence of a state of war should preclude any and all argument over how that war is pursued. That's the attitude that leads to military quagmires like Vietnam and Iraq, or that allows power-hungry leaders to quash their opposition by painting them as unpatriotic. Bad military policies should absolutely be argued with. Checks and balances are absolutely vital to the healthy functioning of a government whether at peace or at war. And war profiteers like Burtoni shouldn't be allowed to trick the Senate into misallocating funds based on some wrongheaded notion that dissent is a threat to security.
 
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My first thought upon the entrance of Lt. Divo was "Columbo" -- a slightly bumbling character who is actually smarter than he first appears. Unfortunately, Divo didn't end up seeming any smarter than he first appeared. :)

I thought the episode as a whole was just so-so. Better than "Senate Spy," but that's not much of a compliment. It's improved over time, but I find the character design and animation is still too limited for this kind of dialogue-heavy drama. The "acting" comes across as wooden.

- Mark
 
My wife and I couldn't get past how Lt. Divo sounded a *lot* like one of Tom Kenny's other characters: Mr. Lopart from Handy Manny. :lol:
 
Mark Boeder said:
My first thought upon the entrance of Lt. Divo was "Columbo" -- a slightly bumbling character who is actually smarter than he first appears. Unfortunately, Divo didn't end up seeming any smarter than he first appeared. :)
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Tom Kenny would disagree, at least partly:

http://www.starwars.com/fans/rocks/news20100319.html
Yes, there's a bit of Columbo in Divo in that being intentionally irritating is part of his M.O. Being abrasive and picking at the figurative scabs of a person's story in the hopes that eventually he will drive them so crazy that they will blurt something out that will be helpful to his case. As it turns out Divo is kind of on the wrong track. But my thinking as I was playing him, was that he would wind up being a little misdirected on the scent even though he's actually good at his job. He's good at getting inside criminals' heads and following a thread and figuring things out. And he's not shy about advertising the fact that he's good at it and has a good track record. He's kind of arrogant, and doesn't care if you're a Senator or a former queen. He's part Joe Friday, part egotistical Sherlock Holmes wannabe.
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He also compares Divo to Kojak.
 
^I would assume the original, since it's far more iconic. You can follow the link and read the actual interview for yourself.
 
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