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Star Wars TCW 1x21 "Liberty on Ryloth" - Discuss/Grade <SPO>

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With his forces stretched thin, Mace Windu must convince Twi'lek freedom fighter Cham Syndulla to help him save the capital city from the droids' destruction.

Looks like we get a Mace Windu focused episode. Finally.
 
Lets hope he kicks as much ass as he did in the previous clone war series.
 
Dooku treats his council members as disposable, yet the greedy fools are too stupid to realize it?

Why do tactical droids have different voices?

I liked the moment when Mace was falling from the deactivated bridge...they deliberately played that up to be cool...and it worked.

There really wasn't the massive confrontation one might have hoped for. The Battle for Christophsis was more epic.
 
It was nice to see Mace in action, but I've found this Ryloth trilogy to just be good not great. I think Star Wars is always lacking something if there isn't some hot saber-on-saber action :p And oh man, I can't wait for the finale! They're having a crossover with Destroy All Humans! Cryptosporidium wearing a goofy cowboy hat! Awesome!
 
So... this is a universe where hovering and flying vehicles are ubiquitous... but somehow the only way into the city is a bridge??
 
OT: When I see Star Wars TCW, I think Star Wars "Tasty Coma Wife." Yeah. I've watch too much "Scrubs."
 
So... this is a universe where hovering and flying vehicles are ubiquitous... but somehow the only way into the city is a bridge??
I was only half watching I'm afraid, but I remember reading that repulsor lift vehicles do require solid surfaces to travel over (they can't float over long drop offs or cliffs for example without falling to the bottom).
 
If only the Republic had some kind of flying gunship that could carry large numbers of troops that are designed to drop into a combat zone... ;) Hell, even the AT-TE monster tanks are dropped off by LAATs, as seen in AOTC!
 
Those one-person walkers are much too agile compared to those from Ep5/6.

I think we're supposed to assume the gunships are destroyed (notice the wreckage they hide behind) and none are available as reinforcements.
 
So... this is a universe where hovering and flying vehicles are ubiquitous... but somehow the only way into the city is a bridge??
I was only half watching I'm afraid, but I remember reading that repulsor lift vehicles do require solid surfaces to travel over (they can't float over long drop offs or cliffs for example without falling to the bottom).

If only the Republic had some kind of flying gunship that could carry large numbers of troops that are designed to drop into a combat zone... ;) Hell, even the AT-TE monster tanks are dropped off by LAATs, as seen in AOTC!

That was my point from the previous episode. It seems science fiction can't adequately depict a planetary invasion/occupation/liberation for my tastes.

What, you need this city for a foothold? Why? You've got an ENTIRE FREAKING PLANET to choose from. Pick a different location. You know, one with less enemy guns.

You're trying to take a planet with such a small amount of troops? Good luck!

You need to take the capital and can't because the bridge is out? Why not find another way. It's a big city and I'm sure the enemy guns aren't everywhere.

As stated with all the advanced tech, it should be easy to land troops there. Further, what kind of capital city is going to have only 1 bridge connecting it to the rest of the planet? Guess the capital doesn't have much in the way of commerce and traffic under normal situations. Heck, aren't there something like 5 or 6 bridges and tunnels connecting Manhattan Island to the mainland? Not counting the big airports.

Now, those complaints aside (because these nits aren't inherent to TCW) I was quite entertained. I am liking the different focus on various Jedi and planets in the war.

Loved seeing the assassin droids again. I wish they'd use them more. Much more competent than the standard droid cannon fodder the separatists use.

I wonder if the live action series will touch on what happened tot he droid army manufacturers. We never see any of the standard droids from the droid army after Episode III. Maybe they were all destroyed.
 
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Oh those fast moving things WERE in a previous episode, that's right. I forgot about that... when watching this one I was thinking "WTF are those things? Why isn't there any explanation or introduction of them?!"
 
I wonder if the live action series will touch on what happened tot he droid army manufacturers. We never see any of the standard droids from the droid army after Episode III. Maybe they were all destroyed.

That would make for an interesting story. I'm sure that there are deactivated droids scattered all over the galaxy after the Clone Wars but we, of course, never see any in the OT- aside from the fact that the PT was made AFTER the OT- probably because the characters (in the movies, anyway) don't go anywhere where there were apparently any major Clone Wars battles fought. Plus, after 19 years or so most of them probably got cleaned up, destroyed, or simply deserted on abandoned planets and junk heaps like Raxus Prime (The Force Unleashed). There are some droids found in an abandoned station that are accidentally reactivated by some of the characters in James Luceno's "Dark Lord" novel but that is set only a few weeks after Episode III so that's not too surprising. In the post-ROTJ novel set 25 years after ANH, "Survivor's Quest", Luke and Mara have to fight a Droideka but that had been stored and taken with the crew of Outbound Flight for defense/protection but the Outbound Flight expedition, of course, had been launched only a scant 5 years after TPM.

A more interesting question is, what happened to the Trade Federation (Neimodians) and the rest of the member-planets of the Separatists (i.e. Banking Clan, Geonosians, etc.)? It is likely that they were conquered/subjugated by the Empire but they probably weren't completely destroyed. Maybe some future series/novels will address this.
 
Excellent episode. Definitely the best of the three in terms of action and the story subject. CW went into war crimes territory with the Seps firebombing Twi'lek villages. This show doesn't hold back. Thought Tambor staying behind was idiotic but it paid off with the tactical droid deciding to leave him there.

Also noticed that the droids were loading the Ark of the Covenant into their ship.

The droid humor can be grating but when they were ordered to cut the bridge, the droid's reaction "Oh well, too bad for them!" was classic.


Can't wait for the Cad Bane episode next week.
 
What, you need this city for a foothold? Why? You've got an ENTIRE FREAKING PLANET to choose from. Pick a different location. You know, one with less enemy guns.

Symbolism more than anything. Taking the capital might not mean the actual fight is over, but it holds a important symbolic meaning in the minds of the populace.
I wonder if the live action series will touch on what happened tot he droid army manufacturers. We never see any of the standard droids from the droid army after Episode III. Maybe they were all destroyed.

At the very least, you're think the Empire would used destroyer-droids and super-battle droids for menial guard tasks. Even the B-1 series droids would make for good canon fodder for the Rebellion.
 
Seriously? The Ark? That's hilarious. ... Was it just me or was the CGI a little cheap and un-detailed and simplistic on this episode? The Twi'leks all look so... 90s CGI. I remember Aayla Secura looking pretty good and detailed when they had her on. And once again I must wonder why didn't you have Aayla around to liberate her own homeworld?
 
Seriously? The Ark? That's hilarious. ... Was it just me or was the CGI a little cheap and un-detailed and simplistic on this episode? The Twi'leks all look so... 90s CGI. I remember Aayla Secura looking pretty good and detailed when they had her on.

The digital models for the background characters tend to be less detailed than those for the main characters, due to time constraints.
 
Not just the background characters, but even the resistance leader. It's odd, some CW episodes just look simple and cheap to me, and then others look incredibly detailed and gorgeous. For example I remember the Naboo episodes... the Naboo scenes looked cheap while the junk moon scenes looked amazing. The Malevolence trilogy looked great... while the Ryloth one hasn't.
 
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I remember watching a commentary that they want to simplify the look of universe. Less details etc.. Maybe they are having a tough time straddling that line.
 
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