Star Wars Rebels Season One (spoilers)

[dansigal]

We got some plot info for Star Wars Rogue One today.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/19/8451743/star-wars-rogue-one-plot-description

"the film will take place between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope, and will be about a group of rebels banding together to steal plans for the Death Star."

The article also says that the movie will NOT be about people with the force or Jedis, so while this won't be a movie continuation of Rebels, the timing is about right that maybe we get a couple shout outs or cameos linking back to the show.

 

[Skywalker]

Sounds like a prime opportunity to recast Wedge Antilles and give the character a bigger role than he had in the OT.

I guess this means the Ghost crew won't be a part of the mission to steal the Death Star plans, which is kinda what I thought they'd end up doing.

 

[Christopher]

I thought we'd already seen the story of how the Death Star plans were stolen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_and_Ferb:_Star_Wars




Anyway, while I like the idea of them mixing up the styles, the gritty war-film approach doesn't really interest me. They did that in one or two The Clone Wars storylines, notably the Umbara 4-parter, and I didn't care for it much.

 

[Mr Light]

I was actually surprised to see this long standing rumor confirmed as I figured they would end Rebels that way. Now I have no idea what Rebels is building towards if they're not going to win that first ever victory for the Rebellion. Now we know they accomplish nothing

 

[Ithekro]

My sense would be the accomplishment of Rebels would be to unite the various factions that are against the Empire into a whole body that becomes the Alliance to Restore the Republic. Instead of bands and cells of people stealing from the Empire and blowing up stuff every once in a while, they go and become a full on shadow government of the Old Republic in its effort to take down the Galactic Empire and restore the Republic (as it was in their minds, before Palpatine).

The first major victory to steal the plans of the Death Star are still several years away from Rebels. As we've seen, they have already had victories. Small ones at best. And with the tone of the show changing, they will likely continue to have small victories and defeats for the next season. What we don't know is how ling Rebels will continue as it is presented today. It could continue on until Rogue One comes out. Or it could change to something else.

 

[Reverend]

Also, not to put too fine a point on it but if there were still Jedi running around, working with the Alliance during the classic trilogy then it seems unlikely that it wouldn't have come up. It's not as if we can even say Yoda's "...the last of the Jedi you will be" was spoken in ignorance because we know he's communicated with both Kanan & Ezra and more than likely Ahsoka too.

So yeah, just as we knew Ahsoka couldn't come out of the Clone Wars all hunky-dory, she--and by extension Kanan & Ezra--are not out of the woods yet. Odds are something unpleasant happens to one or all three of them before the show is over.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Of course, neither Kanan or Ezra nor even Ahsoka are full-fledged Jedi.

 

[FPAlpha]

Of course, neither Kanan or Ezra nor even Ahsoka are full-fledged Jedi.

I have not seen much of Clone Wars and have skipped most of the Rebels episodes but i was under the assumption that Kanan at least is a fully trained Jedi.

 

[JD]

That was a awesome trailer. Looks like things are definitely getting a lot bigger for season 2. I love that they seem to be really turning this into a bridge between TCW and the OT.
IGN had an interview with Filoni at Celebration, and apparently the Ahsoka/Vader duel on the poster isn't from an episode.

I remember reading somewhere that Rebels was going to eventually be replaced by a new show set either post-ROTJ, or during the Force Awakens era. Do we know if that is still the plan, and if so how long many more seasons of Rebels we'll be getting?
EDIT: I believe Kanan was still a Padawan when Order 66 was enacted. So if you want to be technical, none of them are fully trained Jedi. They are just people who use the Force and Lightsabers, and two of them have some Jedi training. It's really picking some tiny nits, but I could see it being used as away to explain away the whole thing with Luke being the last of the Jedi, without killing the Rebels characters.

 

[Ithekro]

Last of the old Jedi...first of the new Jedi.

The only trouble with making Yoda's statement "a certain point of view" like thing, is tha is says "When gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be". The loophole being that none of the other survivors are considered to be trained Jedi. Or at least not fully trained. If he hadn't added the "when gone am I" part, I could put on that Luke is the last Jedi...there are others but he was the last one. That doesn't work. So if there are any Jedi left, they are either not fully trained, or are no longer Jedi (fallen to the Dark Side perhaps).

The only surviving Jedi we've seen in Rebels are former Padawans.

 

[Skywalker]

Of course, neither Kanan or Ezra nor even Ahsoka are full-fledged Jedi.

I have not seen much of Clone Wars and have skipped most of the Rebels episodes but i was under the assumption that Kanan at least is a fully trained Jedi.

Kanan was still a young Padawan when Order 66 happened, close in age to Ahsoka.

 

[Christopher]

Odd, though, since Luke had less training overall than Kanan or Ahsoka did. They were training since childhood, while Luke just had a few days (?) of training from Obi-Wan and a crash course with Yoda. So how is he more of a full-fledged Jedi than they are?

 

[Mach5]

Odd, though, since Luke had less training overall than Kanan or Ahsoka did.

Luke literally had, like, six days worth of Jedi training.

 

[FPAlpha]

Ah.. the inconsistencies of The Empire Strikes back.. good times!

 

[EnsignRicky]

I could be completely wrong, but at this point it would appear that the short answer is that Ashoka, Kanan and Ezra are all dead by the start of Episode IV.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Odd, though, since Luke had less training overall than Kanan or Ahsoka did. They were training since childhood, while Luke just had a few days (?) of training from Obi-Wan and a crash course with Yoda. So how is he more of a full-fledged Jedi than they are?

Well he most have gotten pointers from somewhere seeing as he could move things with the Force in Empire.

 

[Samurai8472]

Well the outcome of this is

Spoiler: spoiler

Kanan could lose a hand

Ezra could be saved by Ahsoka at the last minute but at the cost of Ahsoka's life.

I think the ending will just have Ezra and the crew uniting various factions and the rebel insignia being born.

 

[Ithekro]

A bittersweet ending would be that the Rebels do have a victory. They then have to lie low for a while and go to the safest place in the galaxy for them until things cool off.


...Alderaan.

Of course the loss of three young Jedi might be what it takes to get Bail to send Leia to get Obi-wan back from Tatooine. She was already going there when the plans for the Death Star came her way from what I remember.

 

[Reverend]

Of course, neither Kanan or Ezra nor even Ahsoka are full-fledged Jedi.

I have not seen much of Clone Wars and have skipped most of the Rebels episodes but i was under the assumption that Kanan at least is a fully trained Jedi.

Kanan was still a young Padawan when Order 66 happened, close in age to Ahsoka.

Younger by a few years actually. He was literally fresh out of the temple with his new master when the order was given.

As for Ahsoka: yeah, technically she's not a fully trained Jedi because she left the order, BUT the implication in that scene is that they're not just offering to let her be a padawan again , but full knight. Her training was complete, she just chose not to accept the title.

Odd, though, since Luke had less training overall than Kanan or Ahsoka did.

Luke literally had, like, six days worth of Jedi training.

And Ezra presumably would have had several years head start AND the tutelage of TWO former Jedi, all under the long distance watch of Yoda....unless something rather drastic happened to them all.

 

[Skywalker]

I have not seen much of Clone Wars and have skipped most of the Rebels episodes but i was under the assumption that Kanan at least is a fully trained Jedi.

Kanan was still a young Padawan when Order 66 happened, close in age to Ahsoka.

Younger by a few years actually. He was literally fresh out of the temple with his new master when the order was given.

The difference of just a couple of years (assuming Kanan was roughly around the same age Ahsoka was when she became Anakin's Padawan) is still "close in age," you know.