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Star Wars Rebels Season One (spoilers)

Kinda interesting how Sabine was able to understand R2 earlier, something which I don't remember many other humanoids in SW ever being able to do.

And it does seem odd that nearly every planet you go to, there are tons of these astromechs roaming around that most people can never really understand. Even if most of the time they're only running errands or fixing things for people, you'd think it would still be handy to have them speak at least a few understandable words.
 
I think most astromechs are meant to interact mainly with other machines. If they do need to communicate with people, then they can use a translator droid like Threepio, or transmit text to a screen as Artoo did in Luke's X-Wing. Artoo is pretty unusual in the extent to which he operates outside the normal parameters of astromech responsibilities.
 
This is Star Wars--where an entire species communicates through a handful of grunts, roars, and growls. A whirring robot is perfectly okay.
 
Most astromechs we've seen so far have be R-units (R2, R3, R4, and R5 units). Chopper is a C-unit (C1-10P), so in theory a much older astromech design. So it is reasonable he has a different sound.

I seem to recall that R2-D2's voice is as Ben Burtt's voice doing baby talk combined with a synthesizer. So the get an emotional quality to the performance.
 
Yes, reasonable that it's different, but not that it sounds specifically like it does, which is terrible and silly and annoying.
 
Well I think Rise of the Old Masters should kill off any complaints about Rebels being to kiddy, while also showing how much of a bunch of bastards the Empire really is.
 
Wow... that Vader scene really should have been in there originally. It gives Rebels a lot of perspective.

+1 for sojourner's Peanuts theory. I LOL'd. Chopper's logic circuits have been fried, apparently that's the reason for his edginess? I doubt he'll get the admiration/props that R2 has earned over the years.
 
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There are those that probably think Artoo sounds silly and annoying too.

At least Artoo's "language" sounds complicated enough that it's believable as a form of communication. Chopper's "Wa-wa-wa"s simply don't have enough complexity to be communicative. He basically emits just one sound -- maybe two, since I think there's also a sort of raspberry-ish sound in there occasionally -- at varying pitches and durations. That's just not a lot of information density.

Granted, one could say much the same about Wookiee language, but there's still a fair amount of variation there, and occasionally a hint of phonetic content, so it's marginally credible as some kind of tonal language. (I do wonder, though, how they can have names like "Wookiee" and "Chewbacca" and "Kashyyyk" when we've never heard Chewie utter anything resembling a consonant.)
 
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There are those that probably think Artoo sounds silly and annoying too.

At least Artoo's "language" sounds complicated enough that it's believable as a form of communication. Chopper's "Wa-wa-wa"s simply don't have enough complexity to be communicative. He basically emits just one sound -- maybe two, since I think there's also a sort of raspberry-ish sound in there occasionally -- at varying pitches and durations. That's just not a lot of information density.

"to you". It makes little sense for droids to communicate with each other audibly if you want to split hairs.
 
Wow! What a great episode. Isaacs's casting was inspired. He's perfect. I'm really sad about Luminara though. I was really excited to hear about her as she's one of my favorite Jedi. (Half my characters in SWTOR are Mirialan. :o ) Though I was kind of confused by the scene because it seemed to me that, when her Force ghost merged into the casket thingy, it almost looked like it was Carbonite. At least that's what I thought it was at first.

Also I'm confused--what Vader scene? :confused:
 
it was at the START of the episode?! damnit, I only recorded the last ten minutes! I just assumed it was at the end when the Inquisitor appears!
 
As for Rebels itself - I'm really freakin' impressed, so much so I JUST finished reading the "A New Dawn" tie in novel.

"Fighter Flight" was the weakest yet, but it kind of felt like a tech demo episode more than anything. I'm not sure if that makes my point clearly, but it felt like something super early that kind of made it too the end, rather than something organic to the overarching story (which does seem to be the case, as 1>2>4 seem to flow very well).

If I have any criticisms, is that so far Lothal seems incredibly boring and we've been back there every week. Now, It makes sense for a home base to be in the middle of nowhere where it IS boring, but visually it feels cheap. The town in the first episode seemed cookie cutter, and everything about Lothal just feels like someone copied and pasted the same rock cone everywhere. I hope theres some more variety coming up when it comes to the visuals, as thats something The Clone Wars nailed perfectly - giving every planet an identity. So far Lothal feels like the neutral planet from Futurama.

As for the characters, I feel we've focused an AWFUL lot on Zeb and Ezra. Kanan got some of the spotlight in the pilot, but Sabine and Hera so far have nothing. Even after reading "A New Dawn", Hera is still a mystery. In a comment over at io9 I said Rebels is reminding me of Firefly an awful lot (which isn't a bad thing) and that Kanan=Mal, Hera=A cross between Inara and Wash, Sabine=Kaylee, Zeb=Jayne and that I guess Ezra fits Simon's fish out of water trope - but now Ezra is feeling more like River in the sense of the "untapped supernatural kid" thing. Anyway, liberally borrowing those character traits has helped endear me to these folks almost instantly. Except Chopper - so far that robot has been a fucking dick. Not mischevious, a dick. I'd have blown that robot out the airlock by now.

The show itself so far has also seemed very "not kiddy" in a way thats surprised me. So far it's felt like we've started halfway through a Clone Wars season (when the show usually picked up and stopped being kiddy). So far we've had the mentioned genocide of Zeb's race with implied flesh melting ray guns, dozens of Stormtroopers killed and zombified remains used as bait. The tie in novel also had a darker tone to it with a much more brutal villain in "Vidian" than I recall in quite some time (beating your enemies to a bloody pulp with your robot hands seems much rougher than Force choking to me).

So all in all I'm hopeful this show can amount to something really good that surpasses Clone Wars (and I really liked Clone Wars half the time). As long as Hera and Sabine get a chance to shine and Chopper stops being a twat, I think we'll get somewhere.
 
In a comment over at io9 I said Rebels is reminding me of Firefly an awful lot (which isn't a bad thing) and that Kanan=Mal, Hera=A cross between Inara and Wash, Sabine=Kaylee, Zeb=Jayne and that I guess Ezra fits Simon's fish out of water trope - but now Ezra is feeling more like River in the sense of the "untapped supernatural kid" thing.

That's what I thought tonight, though I saw Hera more as Zoe.
 
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